Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included

  • From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 05:48:24 +0200

as I think, activex is a propietary tehnolgy and only microsoft can use it.
This is the reason that makes firefox not to use them (amoung other like security)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included


So do you mean that Open Office supports ActiveX like MS Office does?

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Operating System with speech included



Actually open office does better at converting and opening Microsoft files than Word itself does. When I was in college back in the 90's we had people using Word perfect and people using word and we had to convert between the
formats.  If we converted using either Word or Word perfect we would lose
the table of contents or the formatting would be screwed up. If however we used open office or Star office (50$) it would convert perfectly so we had
to use Linux just to convert files. .

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 3:12 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included

By the best accessibility I mean the best accessibility out of the box, and this is found with Windows and Jaws, or as you said, they offer the easiest
accessibility.

And by accessibility I also refer to the possibility of accessing some types

of files used by some companies, which are Windows specific files. They
should be also easy accessible under Linux out of the box.

If we consider the accessibility from the point of view of developers that create screen readers, that is important for a very small number of persons.

I already said that Windows offer fewer configuration possibilities than
Linux, and that it is more limited than Linux, but those limited options
under Windows are enough for most users, while under Linux it might be very hard to scan and OCR images, to use an .mdb database or some other types of
files which are used under Windows.
Windows is a de facto standard for most businesses, and nobody cares that
some Linux binaries can't be used under Windows, but they care if a certain
Windows binary can't be used.

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 4:24 AM
Subject: RE: Creating an Operating System with speech included




I disagree with this. The easiest accessibility is found with windows and
jaws.  The most accessible software like OCR can be found with windows.
You
are in correct by saying the best access is found with windows and Jaws.
The best is still speakup, orca, and Linux.  Someone has already said it
here but if windows screws up you can just sit and listen to your mp3
player
because you sure the heck are not going to fix it on your own without
reinstalling the whole thing.  I say this from the point of view as a
previous manager of an office network of over 12 windows xp machines and a now coder of a device running OE Linux. I never had a problem with the 1 Linux box that I could not fix myself but with all the windows boxes there
was always something I couldn't do and that ticks me off.  True access
would
see us even at the bios level and at one time there was talking bios chips and the only way to do that now is by the Intel remote management but what

I
was starting to say if you want real access you must go Linux.  If you
want
easy access you must go windows.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 1:48 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Creating an Operating System with speech included

Octavian Rasnita wrote:
"I said only that the  best accessibility is offered by Windows and
Jaws..."
*snicker*


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