Re: Cognos Accessibility with JAWS

Hi Jim,
Thanks for the information.  I went to the hotspotclicker website and read 
through some of the information.  Do you know if this would work on an icon 
that JAWS cannot even seem to find?  
 
Brent Neal
140 E 300 S
Salt Lake City, UT 84111
 
Programmer
Phone:  801.526.9797
Email:  bneal@xxxxxxxx 


>>> Jim Bauer <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx> 9/24/2009 9:55 AM >>>
Hotspot Clicker will get you up and running in the shortest amount of
time and without you having to sit in front of your favorite text
editor, testing and debugging JAWS script code. <G>

Borrow a pair of eyes while you position the JAWS cursor over the
appropriate items. You can choose to position relative to either
screen height/width or the dimentions of the application main
window.

"Brent Neal" <bneal@xxxxxxxx> wrote on Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:41:16
-0600:

>With further sighted assistance I have better information.
>In insertable objects there are 3 tabs.  The screen comes up in the default 
>tab which is source.  If the sighted user clicks on one of the other tabs 
>either data items or Toolbox than JAWS will read what is in it but I cannot 
>get JAWS to find the other tabs.  This seems like such a simple problem but it 
>makes it unusable for me.  It is probably just because the developer did not 
>label the tabs so that JAWS knows they are there.  We have the same problem 
>with the tabs in the next part of the screen which is called the Page Explorer.
>Let me know if you have any other suggestions.
>Thank You   
> 
>Brent Neal
>140 E 300 S
>Salt Lake City, UT 84111
> 
>Programmer
>Phone:  801.526.9797
>Email:  bneal@xxxxxxxx 
>
>
>>>> Dorene Cornwell <dorenefc@xxxxxxxxx> 9/24/2009 12:45 AM >>>
>This is going to sound flip, but have you tried Ctrl Tab  ?
>
>Good luck
>
>DC
>
>On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Brent Neal <bneal@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> The 3 icons I cannot access are actually called tabs in the documentation.
>> They are referred to as the Toolbox tab, Data Items tab and Source tab in
>> the Insertable Objects Pane.
>> Is there a special way to access tabs?
>>
>> Brent Neal
>> 140 E 300 S
>> Salt Lake City, UT 84111
>>
>> Programmer
>> Phone:  801.526.9797
>> Email:  bneal@xxxxxxxx 
>>
>>>>> Dorene Cornwell <dorenefc@xxxxxxxxx> 9/23/2009 1:16 PM >>>
>> Brent
>>
>> In cases like this, I am a great believer in making the Cognos tech
>> support staff earn their keep. Web-based report-writing is too
>> important a function. Cognos is too important a product;
>> decisionmakers for organizations of all sizes SHOULD be considering
>> accessibility in their purchasing decisions and Cognos should not be
>> allowed to slide and palm all the work off on you or your IT shop. You
>> are basically beta-testing and intentionally or not helping them with
>> necessary development work.
>>
>> I think the hotspot clicker idea also sounds interesting. What
>> screenreader and version of JAWS are you using? I have not read all
>> the wonders that JAWS 10 is supposed to work with dynamic updates of
>> the screen, but I would think to look there.
>>
>> Keep us all posted. This is important work!
>>
>> DoreneC
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Jim Bauer <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Alas, I know nothing of Cognos itself, though I'll write anyway with a
>>> couple *helpful* bits about your problem(s):
>>>
>>> I'm sure Geoff C is composing a thesis extolling the virtues of
>>> Hotspot Clicker, so I'll beat him to it. <grin>. Any time you're
>>> talking about coordinate-based positioning in areas that have the
>>> potential for going dynamic, it's definitely the easiest, most
>>> customizable option.
>>>
>>> Are the sectioned-off elements you seek actual windows or just
>>> "chunks" of information written to one large window that represents
>>> the screen area?
>>>
>>> P.S. If you're unaware, Hotspot Clicker can be found at
>>> http://www.hotspotclicker.org 
>>> "Brent Neal" <bneal@xxxxxxxx> wrote on Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:25:21
>>> -0600:
>>>
>>>>Here at work I was put on the data warehouse team because they thought I
>>>> could learn Cognos and create Cognos reports.  So far Cognos on the web has
>>>> been quite accessible accept we cannot seem to get to the Source, Toolbox
>>>> and Data Items icons which are in the center part of the screen.  I had
>>>> sighted assistance in labeling the icons but JAWS still does not recognize
>>>> them.  Is there any way to get around this problem?  If not I will not be
>>>> able to create the reports.
>>>>Also the screen is divided into 3 sections and I need to find a way to
>>>> switch between sections.  They are not frames or tables.  Does anyone know
>>>> how to do this?
>>>>Is anyone else using Cognos with JAWS?
>>>>Any help will be appreciated.
>>>>Thank You
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Brent Neal
>>>>140 E 300 S
>>>>Salt Lake City, UT 84111
>>>>
>>>>Programmer
>>>>Phone:  801.526.9797
>>>>Email:  bneal@xxxxxxxx 
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