Well remember that I'm very new to the .net framework, so if I don't know something, don't think I'm providing wrong information on purpose. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:03 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Beginning to Learn c++ and stuff? either way, it's a moot point. you can compile native c++ with clr, but you don't get any of these benafits you speak of. I think this is a case of x is awesome, with no backup to support it. On 7/15/2011 7:07 PM, Katherine Moss wrote: > Well the benefits I speak of are unfortunately only in my opinion. I just > think that the CLR is cleaner in the way it handles things like memory > management and stuff. That's my big thing with it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:58 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Beginning to Learn c++ > > I'll clerify. You're talking about the "benafits" of the clr. You're not > going to get those benafits (which you still haven't explained) without > altering code (which wouldn't make it native code) to use the clr. > Garbage collection, for example. You'd need to use ^ for references. > On 7/15/2011 6:33 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: >> because c++ is not the same as c++.net. you don't just write something >> in c++, then compile it to use the CLR. >> On 7/15/2011 4:39 PM, Katherine Moss wrote: >>> If you ask me though, you should use C# unless you need to work with >>> MAPI or something obnoxious like that. I'm a beginner too, but C#'s >>> my language. I don't understand how I confused you by saying that >>> using Microsoft compiler in VS 2010 and then compiling with the CLR >>> option was confusing because it just gives C++ the features of the >>> CLR such as garbage collection and memory management. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edgar >>> Lozano >>> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 4:18 PM >>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: Re: Beginning to Learn c++ >>> >>> Yeah. I was kind of wondering what you were talking about. I don't >>> know what an c++.net is, I don't know a lot of stuff. I'm just a >>> beginner programmer. >>> >>> On 7/15/11, Littlefield, Tyler<tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> First, you said you can use microsoft's. I assumed you were talking >>>> about .net, or you don't know what clr is. Second, what are these "clr" >>>> enhancements you speak of? >>>> On 7/15/2011 10:23 AM, Katherine Moss wrote: >>>>> How is that misinformation? Visual C++ is what I meant, I was just >>>>> too lazy to say it. And how does that not have CLR enhancements? >>>>> I don't see how I'm wrong there, but I'll go away now and you can >>>>> yell at me later on if you'd like when I'm not at work. How's that? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >>>>> Littlefield, Tyler >>>>> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 12:18 PM >>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: Re: Beginning to Learn c++ >>>>> >>>>> Hello: >>>>> Glad to see you're getting going with c++, it's a rather nice >>>>> language. >>>>> Anyway, as for compilers the best I've found on Windows is visual c++. >>>>> You can get the 2008 or 2010 edition free, if you get visual studio >>>>> express. As for books and guides, I recommend thinking in c++, by >>>>> bruce eckel. If you google it, you'll find that the books are free. >>>>> I'm throwing in my contact info if you use msn/aim/skype and have >>>>> further questions or just run into a problem. >>>>> msn: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> skype: st8amnd127 >>>>> aim: st8amnd2005 >>>>> HTH, >>>>> On 7/15/2011 10:07 AM, Edgar Lozano wrote: >>>>>> Hey there. My name is Edgar. Does anybody know where I can find >>>>>> C++ getting started guides and tutorials? I also want to know what >>>>>> kinds of compilers that different people use that are accessible >>>>>> with any screen reader. >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> __________ >>>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Take care, >>>> Ty >>>> my website: >>>> http://tds-solutions.net >>>> my blog: >>>> http://tds-solutions.net/blog >>>> skype: st8amnd127 >>>> My programs don't have bugs; they're randomly added features! >>>> >>>> __________ >>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>> >>>> >>> __________ >>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>> >>> __________ >>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>> >>> >> > -- Take care, Ty my website: http://tds-solutions.net my blog: http://tds-solutions.net/blog skype: st8amnd127 My programs don't have bugs; they're randomly added features! __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind