Hello Mr. Whapples, Thank you for this information. Is there a development tool available that is designed for PL.SQL that is more accessible? What do you use? Thanks, John -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Whapples Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:35 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Are Oracle SQL Developer and or TOAD accessible? Hello, Some slightly bad news, not really is the short answer. A more detailed answer is slightly more promising. SQLDeveloper is written in java, and if you get the version which comes with its own JVM (the one which has no dependency), then out of the box it seems inaccessible, but this is due to the java access bridge not being installed in the bundled JVM. If you get the java access bridge (the manual install zip file version), and copy the files into the bundled JRE as described in the java access bridge install instructions then it will become accessible. NOTE: the bundled JRE is found in the sql developer directory, in the folder named jre. Unfortunately it still isn't perfect, but possibly could be resolved easily by the developers of sql developer (there are issues with keyboard navigation of the window). Hopefully things may improve in time, as the version I tried was in early access state and when I contacted oracle accessibility, I was told that there is someone who is blind developing it now. Also unfortunately, this is also an area window-eyes lets itself down, it doesn't work with the java access bridge, and from what I have been told by GW-Micro support they don't have plans for when it might become a feature. On the other hand, TOAD seems to be inaccessible. I haven't checked whether it is written in java, as it isn't presenting itself totally inaccessible like a java app without a java access bridge does, and all screen readers have problems (Window-eyes, hal and jaws I have tested). Controls are being reported, but they are normally only reported as custom controls, and very little useful information is gained. I have even found that screen readers have had problems with reading the menus, and so I have had to come to the conclusion it is inaccessible, or it would require significant work to make it accessible (either from the TOAD end of things or via things like screen reader script files, etc). Michael Whapples On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 02:20 -0400, FreeLists Mailing List Manager wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Are Oracle SQL Developer and or TOAD accessible? > Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 13:26:15 -0400 > From: "Good, John" <John.Good@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Hello all, > I've been working on PL.SQL. After I do the coding, I've been > passing it on to another person for compilation and testing. I wish > to > do this myself. Our shop has both Oracle SQL Developer and TOAD. Are > these packages accessible? Which is the easiest to work with and or > learn? > > Thanks, John __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind