RE: Announcing the Orion Smart book

Hi,
Then I expect to publish mine sometime this year then...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 06:47:35 -0500
Subject: RE: Announcing the Orion Smart book

Its Android as it says.

ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 5:27 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Announcing the Orion Smart book

Hi,
One more - how does Orion work with third-party software, or can
one use tools used for creating Android apps for writing external
programs for this
device? If it can, then I plan to contribute some programs for
the device user community in the future.  Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 21:30:37 -0500
Subject: RE: Announcing the Orion Smart book

We can  and have I won't tell you which one we chose because you
will have
to wait and hear it either at CSUN or online.  I will say though
I agree
with you I like Kendra.

ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil
Vlasak
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:16 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Announcing the Orion Smart book

Hi Ken,
I checked out the IVONA voices.
http://www.ivona.com/studio.php

I liked Kendra - American English the best.
I hope you can choose which voice to use on the Orion Smart book.

Phil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:25 PM
Subject: RE: Announcing the Orion Smart book


I understand your argument and know it has merit.  I also know
there is a
market for these devices.  The one thing that all the cool touch
screens
do
not have is a quick and easy input method.  I personally use
both an
IPhone
and a G2 right now.  The main thing I hate about both is having
to write
documents and take notes.  You can record with them fine but if
you're
trying to use it as a document or even a good messaging system
the input
is
terrible.   This new device improves on the input by 100 % and
the output
I
will leave that up to the people as they try it.  I can tell you
this
though
Ivona speech engines are the stuff dreams are made of.


Look we can all argue that one thing is better than the other.
We can all
say it's too expensive even though I am working on the project
and don't
know the cost yet.  One thing we all have to agree on is that
the more
accessible devices the better.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dale
Leavens
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:10 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Announcing the Orion Smart book

But so far we don't have the price for the braille display.

What I quoted was the current hardware as shown on the LevelStar
Site.

Unless they have some new refreshable braille technology the
Orion will be

a

lot more than two grand and you can have braille on any number
of devices
these days.

I agree.  A netbook and at least you have a fully compatible
word
processor,
one used by the rest of the world assuming one shares documents
with the
rest of the world.

for a hundred bucks you can buy a 32 GB card for your Stream.
Modern SSD
drives are used these days maybe the Orion will upgrade to a
solid state
drive.  Even that on the Icon wouldn't justify $1,300.

I will say that I approve the use of braille but for the speed
of speech
it
will have to get a bunch cheaper before I'll be buying int.

I guess there is a market but I don't see it.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Midence" <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: Announcing the Orion Smart book


Well, if it does braille output, it's got my vote sight unseen.
At
the price it's selling for, it looks like you can have a little
braille display for under 2k.  That's really cool.  I still
can't
afford it, mind, but it's really cool.  I wonder if you can use
it as
an external speech synth and/or braille display for a screen
reader on
a laptop or desktop.  That would be really nifty.  The note
taker
stuff isn't really that exciting to me.  I can grab a $150
netbook off
of craigslist and load up soemthing like Vinux on there and I
have a
powerful note taker right there and then.  You don't even need
all the
stuff Vinux comes with pre-installed really.  All you really
need is
Pico, abook, tudu, mplayer and Lynx running on something with
speakup
installed and you got a decent note taker.  Couple of megs more
gets
you emacspeak and you have something that is just as powerful as
any
word processor out there, imho.  Add a menu feature of some kind
which
launches what you want at the press of a key and you don't even
need
to have the command line come up to bring up your stuff.  That
braille
display and that speech synth though are very attention grabbing
for
me.  Don't get me wrong, I am not knocking all the nice apps
featured
on there.  I just can't see myself going into debt for them when
I can
get a comparable set of them for ffree on a much much cheaper
machine.

For daisy, I have a victor reader which also stores songs.  I
don't
need 40 gigs of songs.  IN fact, I have a 2 gig mini flash card
for my
music and an 8 gb one for my audio books.  Podcasts, I get
through my
android phone and stitcher but a braille display, that for under
2
grand is not to be sneezed at.

Alex M

On 3/9/11, Dale Leavens <dleavens@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, I don't get it.

The LevelStar Site doesn't give much information on the Icon,
look like
you
don't get any input other than audio without the docking station
which
means
$1,300 for the Icon and $600 for the keyboard, $1,900
altogether.  For
that
you get 8 more gigs of hard drive than you get on an iPhone.

I presume you can do input in some way outside of the docking
station
but
they don't tell you anything about that.

Having braille output albeit only 18 cells will add to the
capability of
course but it seems redundant to me to have yet another isolated
note
taker.

The iPhone and come to that the iPod touch already does all that
stuff
and
more for less.


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Littlefield, Tyler
  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Cc: Ken Perry
  Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:36 PM
  Subject: Re: Announcing the Orion Smart book


  I seen that! And even with no price tag, it's already making
my wallet
clench up in fear.
  On 3/9/2011 1:39 PM, Ken Perry wrote:








    I can now show you what I am helping to work on.  Here is
the
announcement that was put out today.






http://www.freelists.org/post/accesscomp/Fw-icondiscuss-A-Glimpse
-Of-The-Lev
elStar-Orion-SmartBooks-At-CSUN-2011






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Thanks,
Ty

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