Re: Accessible Rich Application Comparison Info

A lot of people don't think of it as an html editor but it's got lots
of plugins besides the ones I named that let you do just that.  It's
probably because so much of the introductory material is just so
time-consuming to go through before you can do anything.  Also, in
many of the forums, they want you to learn a zillion hotkeys, read
tomes and tomes of unix manuals and stay up all night learning Emacs
lisp before they agree to show you where the meta key is.  I got mad
and decided that I'd do something about it.  I am writing a simple,
do-driven tutorial on Emacspeak which targets a modern user of windows
and Gnome with their menu systems and the like.  I think one is well
overdue since the latest one I could find was last updated in 2001 and
here we are in 2011.  I'm about 75% done and need to do some serious
spell checking and typo fixing but, here's the link.  Remember, it's a
work in progress.  The goal is to actually get it to where you can
*DO* *SOMETHING* within your first 5 or so minutes of launching it.  I
wrote it in org-mode and exported it to html.  See for yourself how
well it does:

http://vinux-docs.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=vinux-docs/vinux-docs;a=blob_plain;f=emacspeak-easy-howto.html;hb=HEAD
  Also, I've got about a grand total of 2 weeks or so under my belt
with org-mode in case you are wondering how long it took me to learn
how to do this.

Regards,
Alex M
On 3/1/11, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Very interesting I never thought of emacs s an html editor I will look into
> that.
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:01 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Accessible Rich Application Comparison Info
>
> Hi, Ken,
>
> Currently, I'm rather taken with Emacs org-mode for writing web
> content.  I've seen lots and lots of css code in the exported source
> files.  I'd use a one row table as a navbar.  Links are enclosed in
> pairs of brackets with the url and the description inside a nested
> pair of brackets respectively.  Tables are created using a | (pipe) at
> the beginning and end  of a row and each cell is separated by yet
> another |.  Here's a really quick example:
>
> |[[http://braille.wunderground.com][Check the
> weather]]|[[Http://www.rfbd.org][Find audio Text
> books]]|[[http://www.google.com][Search using google]]|
>
> Put that all on one line, cut and paste it into a file you save with a
> .org extension and then bring it up in Emacs.  Then, c-c c-e to
> export, press h for html, give it a title, press enter and. wham!  To
> see what it looks like, just bring the resulting html file up with
> your favorite browser and see if it's what you want.
>
> Muse Mode is another good authoring environment for Emacs.  I'm using
> these examples because I recall you once posted that you have
> Emacspeak set up on a machine somewhere?  Anyway, I recently
> discovered these two modes and I am just loving them since you don't
> have to write most of the html by hand.  The exported file is, of
> course available and you can then tweak it to your own specifications
> after most of the trivial stuff has been done for you.
> If you want an accessible wysiwyg html editor that also lets you edit
> the source code, KompoZer has worked out well for me.  It's a
> Gecko-based html editor that has a wysiwig mode, a tag mode and a
> source mode. It's pretty accessible though it could probably do with
> some scripting.  If you want something even more high end, there's
> always dreamweaver but  it's not free unlike the other stuff I
> mentioned here.
> The Microsoft tool I think you were going for is Frontpage.  It's
> successor is callld SharePoint Designer.  I have never used it before
> so I have no idea how accessible or inaccessible it is.
>
> Some links:
> Org mode:  http://orgmode.org/org.html
> Muse Mode:  http://mwolson.org/projects/MuseQuickStart.html
> KompoZer:  http://kompozer.net/
>
> Good luck,
> Alex M
>
> On 3/1/11, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a question that is sort of realated to this post.  I inherited the
>> upkeep of a web page recently.  It looks like crap and now I will probably
>> start fresh.  When I used to write web pages I wrote them using Microsoft
>> Publisher.   Or whatever that designer program they no longer support was
>> called.  Anyway What is the easiest way to create a business looking web
>> page with css navigation bars that are accessible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 9:20 AM
>> To: Nye, Michael C
>> Subject: Accessible Rich Application Comparison Info
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If you design web pages, you will want to see this.
>>
>>
> http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2011/02/comparison-of-aria-roles-exposed-v
>> ia-msaa-and-ui-automation-in-ie9/
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
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