Hi, I know you will fine tons if you just google for something like css layouts or css example layouts. I wish I had some of the bookmarks I had before my two computer crashes. I'd send you to some good places directly. Jim -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:44 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Accessible Rich Application Comparison Info Nod I want to go with at least templates. I have an editor that is just fine with html I just wanted something that would build me a basic business like page that I could restart this mess from. I guess a template is a good idea. ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:30 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Accessible Rich Application Comparison Info Hi, Based on my experience with Dreamweaver, you might as well use something else, because the WYSIWYG view stinks regarding accessibility. Notetab lite and Notetab Pro are nice for HTML. So is EdSharp, but I haven't worked on it to help it generate HTML beyond the snippets I contributed. If I crack open a JavaScript book, I could probably make some more powerful automatic snippets. One way to go might be to use one of the conversion utilities. For CSS, though, I'm not sure what to use if you want to generate code. I'm sure that you can pick up some templates for layouts easily. Jim -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:01 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Accessible Rich Application Comparison Info Hi, Ken, Currently, I'm rather taken with Emacs org-mode for writing web content. I've seen lots and lots of css code in the exported source files. I'd use a one row table as a navbar. Links are enclosed in pairs of brackets with the url and the description inside a nested pair of brackets respectively. Tables are created using a | (pipe) at the beginning and end of a row and each cell is separated by yet another |. Here's a really quick example: |[[http://braille.wunderground.com][Check the weather]]|[[Http://www.rfbd.org][Find audio Text books]]|[[http://www.google.com][Search using google]]| Put that all on one line, cut and paste it into a file you save with a .org extension and then bring it up in Emacs. Then, c-c c-e to export, press h for html, give it a title, press enter and. wham! To see what it looks like, just bring the resulting html file up with your favorite browser and see if it's what you want. Muse Mode is another good authoring environment for Emacs. I'm using these examples because I recall you once posted that you have Emacspeak set up on a machine somewhere? Anyway, I recently discovered these two modes and I am just loving them since you don't have to write most of the html by hand. The exported file is, of course available and you can then tweak it to your own specifications after most of the trivial stuff has been done for you. If you want an accessible wysiwyg html editor that also lets you edit the source code, KompoZer has worked out well for me. It's a Gecko-based html editor that has a wysiwig mode, a tag mode and a source mode. It's pretty accessible though it could probably do with some scripting. If you want something even more high end, there's always dreamweaver but it's not free unlike the other stuff I mentioned here. The Microsoft tool I think you were going for is Frontpage. It's successor is callld SharePoint Designer. I have never used it before so I have no idea how accessible or inaccessible it is. Some links: Org mode: http://orgmode.org/org.html Muse Mode: http://mwolson.org/projects/MuseQuickStart.html KompoZer: http://kompozer.net/ Good luck, Alex M On 3/1/11, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > I have a question that is sort of realated to this post. I inherited the > upkeep of a web page recently. It looks like crap and now I will probably > start fresh. When I used to write web pages I wrote them using Microsoft > Publisher. Or whatever that designer program they no longer support was > called. Anyway What is the easiest way to create a business looking web > page with css navigation bars that are accessible. > > > > Ken > > > > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 9:20 AM > To: Nye, Michael C > Subject: Accessible Rich Application Comparison Info > > > > Hi, > > If you design web pages, you will want to see this. > > http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2011/02/comparison-of-aria-roles-exposed-v > ia-msaa-and-ui-automation-in-ie9/ > > > > Jim > > > > _____ > > This e-mail and any attachments to it are confidential and are intended > solely for use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If > you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately > and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not > keep, use, disclose, copy or distribute this e-mail without the author's > prior permission. 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