Re: Accessible Java Development Environment

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  • Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:56:50 -0400

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Varun Khosla" <varun.lists@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Java Development Environment



yes, but it too didn't work. Moreover, one needs to have JRE
preinstalled to install access bridge which is built-in into JDK setup
(dispensing the process of installing JRE, then access bridge and
finally JDK.) Well, I followed a little different process; I installed
JDK first (with my bro asistance), then access bridge. After which I
reran the JDK setup and found no improvements.

On 10/27/09, The Elf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

did you install the access bridge that they have there?

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Varun Khosla" <varun.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Java Development Environment



I downloaded it from http://java.sun.com/javaee/downloads/index.jsp
and the file is
java_app_platform_sdk-5_07-jdk-6u16-windows.exe
203 mb. I guess that it's not a bundled version as I
downloaded&installed netbeans separately.

P.S. I've installed the jdk with my brother asistance. There are some
parts (like buttons&pages title) accessible but not all, especially
textboxes&navigation buttons (next/previous)

P.P.S. Surprisingly, I was able to install netbeans on my own
(installer was totally accessible).

On 10/26/09, Jared <stofflet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Did you download the stand-alone JDK or one of the versions bundled with 
netbeans? If you download the stand-alone JDK the install should be
accessible, if you download a bundle it won't be.

Varun Khosla wrote:

Hi Jay,
Have u tried to install jdk? I was unable to install - it's a windows
version and only accessible thing in the setup I found was the exit
confirmation window (it appears when you press alt+f4). Does it
require some java access bridge sort of thing preinstalled to be
accessible?


On 10/19/09, Macarty, Jay  {PBSG} <Jay.Macarty@xxxxxxxx> wrote:


I use no add-on scripts for Eclipse with Jaws. For window-Eyes, I do
have
a
set file defined because some of the commonly used eclipse short-cut
keys
are also Window-Eyes keys. For example, in Eclipse, you can press
shift+ctrl+e to bring up a list of all your open editor windows in a
list.
You can then just arrow to the one you want and hit enter to go to that 
edit
window. Unfortunately, Window-Eyes also uses shift+ctrl+e as one of its 
hotkeys.
NOTE: One nice thing about using shift+ctrl+e is that there will be an 
asterisk beside any program name which has been modified but which
hasn't
been saved as yet. Therefore, when you have a number of classes up in
editor
windows, as I often do, you can quickly find out which ones have been
updated but not yet saved/compiled.
Of course, there are some eclipse plug-in features, such as UML drawing 
tools, that are not accessible. However, I have found the majority of
the
Eclipse features to be accessible without any special scripting. You
just
have to learn how to navigate to where you want to be.


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Varun
Khosla
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:47 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Accessible Java Development Environment

Hi Jay,
wonderful features ... I think I've got what I was looking for.
Eclipse, it's got all the features I'm used to of in visual studio.
Guess what? I've downloaded Eclipse for java enterprise application
development (170 mb or so). Is there any jaws script for Eclipse
required
to
have these features accessible for VIs?

Thanks,
Varun



On 10/16/09, Macarty, Jay  {PBSG} <Jay.Macarty@xxxxxxxx> wrote:


Yes, Eclipse has functionality similar to intellisense. I use it
constantly.
Eclipse also can offer a number of source code options like formatting 
or code templates. You can do things like select a line of code and
then press
alt+s and select surround with try/catch and eclipse will
alt+automatically put
in the try and catch blocks appropriate to the code selected. You can do things like define a set of private variables and then have Eclipse 
automatically generate all the public getter and setter methods. One
of the code templates I use most frequently is the one for putting in System.out.println statement. You can type the letters sysout and then 
press
ctrl+space bar and Eclipse will generate System.out.println(); and put 
ctrl+the
cursor between the ( and ). You can select a variable name and press
alt+r for the refactor menu and select rename. When you enter the new 
name, you can tell eclipse to find and replace the references to the
old name with the new one. This is especially helpful because you can 
do the same thing for a method name, a class name, or even a package
name. If you are unsure as to the correct import for a given object
but you are sure you have the appropriate jars, you can put your
cursor on the object name and press
ctrl+shift+m and Eclipse will find the package that object belongs to 
ctrl+shift+and
insert the import statement at the top of your code. If the object
type is found in more than one package, you will be prompted to select 
the one you want from a list. For example the object type Date could
be either java.util.Date or java.sql.Date.
So, Eclipse offers many, many ways of helping you rapidly develop your 
projects. If you get the version of Eclipse designed for web
development, then, yes you can develop JSP pages or web services.


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Varun
Khosla
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:21 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Accessible Java Development Environment

Hi Jay,
wonderful, I am curious about Eclipse. Few questions about it. Does it 
have accessible intellisense like thing? (it really helps in
programming, especially for case-sensitive languages.) Are We able to 
develop all types of java programs (including JSPs) with Eclipse?
I will also look at it on the link you provided; thanks


On 10/14/09, Macarty, Jay  {PBSG} <Jay.Macarty@xxxxxxxx> wrote:


Varunh,

A good part of my job is java programming. I use both JAWS and
Window-Eyes depending on which fits a given situation best. The java development environment I use is Eclipse. It is quite accessible with 
either screen reader. I set up a few function keys to jump between
various windows easier such as f6 to go to the compile results pane, 
f7 to go to the tree showing my project files, and f8 to go to the
console output pane. Key f12 is, by default, already set up to take
you back to the editor pane from most anywhere else you might be.
This gives me quick access to the panes I use the most.

I have eclipse set up to compile a program automatically when it is
saved; thus, I can enter code in the editor pane, press ctrl+s to
save/compile it, and then press f6 to go to the compile results pane 
to check for errors or warnings.
If you want to read more about Eclipse and get the free download, you 
can go to www.eclipse.org



-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Varun
Khosla
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:35 AM
To: programmingblind
Subject: Accessible Java Development Environment

Hello friends,
Recently I ask for a good java book and included my another query in 
the same email. I realized later that the subject formed,
concentrated only on the book query and as a result, it overshadowed 
the other query . So here's my other query:
I believe there must be many VIs out here who have worked a bit (some 
have a
lot) on java - so which is your favorite (or at least prefered)
development environment strictly in terms of accessibility. I have
heard of Netbeans, how much accessible is it? I would like to start
with Java but don't want to frustrate me by wasting tuns of hours in finding an accessible way of working on it. I also have an expression 
that java apps (so does
development) are poor in accessibility - I wish that this terns out
to be my prejudice. Thanks for any help!


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