Re: Accessible Java Development Environment

  • From: Varun Khosla <varun.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:51:53 +0530

yes, but it too didn't work. Moreover, one needs to have JRE
preinstalled to install access bridge which is built-in into JDK setup
(dispensing the process of installing JRE, then access bridge and
finally JDK.) Well, I followed a little different process; I installed
JDK first (with my bro asistance), then access bridge. After which I
reran the JDK setup and found no improvements.

On 10/27/09, The Elf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> did you install the access bridge that they have there?
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Varun Khosla" <varun.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible Java Development Environment
>
>
>>I downloaded it from http://java.sun.com/javaee/downloads/index.jsp
>> and the file is
>> java_app_platform_sdk-5_07-jdk-6u16-windows.exe
>> 203 mb. I guess that it's not a bundled version as I
>> downloaded&installed netbeans separately.
>>
>> P.S. I've installed the jdk with my brother asistance. There are some
>> parts (like buttons&pages title) accessible but not all, especially
>> textboxes&navigation buttons (next/previous)
>>
>> P.P.S. Surprisingly, I was able to install netbeans on my own
>> (installer was totally accessible).
>>
>> On 10/26/09, Jared <stofflet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Did you download the stand-alone JDK or one of the versions bundled with
>>> netbeans? If you download the stand-alone JDK the install should be
>>> accessible, if you download a bundle it won't be.
>>>
>>> Varun Khosla wrote:
>>>> Hi Jay,
>>>> Have u tried to install jdk? I was unable to install - it's a windows
>>>> version and only accessible thing in the setup I found was the exit
>>>> confirmation window (it appears when you press alt+f4). Does it
>>>> require some java access bridge sort of thing preinstalled to be
>>>> accessible?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/19/09, Macarty, Jay  {PBSG} <Jay.Macarty@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I use no add-on scripts for Eclipse with Jaws. For window-Eyes, I do
>>>>> have
>>>>> a
>>>>> set file defined because some of the commonly used eclipse short-cut
>>>>> keys
>>>>> are also Window-Eyes keys. For example, in Eclipse, you can press
>>>>> shift+ctrl+e to bring up a list of all your open editor windows in a
>>>>> list.
>>>>> You can then just arrow to the one you want and hit enter to go to that
>>>>> edit
>>>>> window. Unfortunately, Window-Eyes also uses shift+ctrl+e as one of its
>>>>> hotkeys.
>>>>>
>>>>> NOTE: One nice thing about using shift+ctrl+e is that there will be an
>>>>> asterisk beside any program name which has been modified but which
>>>>> hasn't
>>>>> been saved as yet. Therefore, when you have a number of classes up in
>>>>> editor
>>>>> windows, as I often do, you can quickly find out which ones have been
>>>>> updated but not yet saved/compiled.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, there are some eclipse plug-in features, such as UML drawing
>>>>> tools, that are not accessible. However, I have found the majority of
>>>>> the
>>>>> Eclipse features to be accessible without any special scripting. You
>>>>> just
>>>>> have to learn how to navigate to where you want to be.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Varun
>>>>> Khosla
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:47 AM
>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: Re: Accessible Java Development Environment
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jay,
>>>>> wonderful features ... I think I've got what I was looking for.
>>>>> Eclipse, it's got all the features I'm used to of in visual studio.
>>>>> Guess what? I've downloaded Eclipse for java enterprise application
>>>>> development (170 mb or so). Is there any jaws script for Eclipse
>>>>> required
>>>>> to
>>>>> have these features accessible for VIs?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Varun
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/16/09, Macarty, Jay  {PBSG} <Jay.Macarty@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, Eclipse has functionality similar to intellisense. I use it
>>>>>> constantly.
>>>>>> Eclipse also can offer a number of source code options like formatting
>>>>>> or code templates. You can do things like select a line of code and
>>>>>> then press
>>>>>> alt+s and select surround with try/catch and eclipse will
>>>>>> alt+automatically put
>>>>>> in the try and catch blocks appropriate to the code selected. You can
>>>>>> do things like define a set of private variables and then have Eclipse
>>>>>> automatically generate all the public getter and setter methods. One
>>>>>> of the code templates I use most frequently is the one for putting in
>>>>>> System.out.println statement. You can type the letters sysout and then
>>>>>> press
>>>>>> ctrl+space bar and Eclipse will generate System.out.println(); and put
>>>>>> ctrl+the
>>>>>> cursor between the ( and ). You can select a variable name and press
>>>>>> alt+r for the refactor menu and select rename. When you enter the new
>>>>>> name, you can tell eclipse to find and replace the references to the
>>>>>> old name with the new one. This is especially helpful because you can
>>>>>> do the same thing for a method name, a class name, or even a package
>>>>>> name. If you are unsure as to the correct import for a given object
>>>>>> but you are sure you have the appropriate jars, you can put your
>>>>>> cursor on the object name and press
>>>>>> ctrl+shift+m and Eclipse will find the package that object belongs to
>>>>>> ctrl+shift+and
>>>>>> insert the import statement at the top of your code. If the object
>>>>>> type is found in more than one package, you will be prompted to select
>>>>>> the one you want from a list. For example the object type Date could
>>>>>> be either java.util.Date or java.sql.Date.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, Eclipse offers many, many ways of helping you rapidly develop your
>>>>>> projects. If you get the version of Eclipse designed for web
>>>>>> development, then, yes you can develop JSP pages or web services.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Varun
>>>>>> Khosla
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:21 PM
>>>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Accessible Java Development Environment
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jay,
>>>>>> wonderful, I am curious about Eclipse. Few questions about it. Does it
>>>>>> have accessible intellisense like thing? (it really helps in
>>>>>> programming, especially for case-sensitive languages.) Are We able to
>>>>>> develop all types of java programs (including JSPs) with Eclipse?
>>>>>> I will also look at it on the link you provided; thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/14/09, Macarty, Jay  {PBSG} <Jay.Macarty@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Varunh,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A good part of my job is java programming. I use both JAWS and
>>>>>>> Window-Eyes depending on which fits a given situation best. The java
>>>>>>> development environment I use is Eclipse. It is quite accessible with
>>>>>>> either screen reader. I set up a few function keys to jump between
>>>>>>> various windows easier such as f6 to go to the compile results pane,
>>>>>>> f7 to go to the tree showing my project files, and f8 to go to the
>>>>>>> console output pane. Key f12 is, by default, already set up to take
>>>>>>> you back to the editor pane from most anywhere else you might be.
>>>>>>> This gives me quick access to the panes I use the most.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have eclipse set up to compile a program automatically when it is
>>>>>>> saved; thus, I can enter code in the editor pane, press ctrl+s to
>>>>>>> save/compile it, and then press f6 to go to the compile results pane
>>>>>>> to check for errors or warnings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want to read more about Eclipse and get the free download, you
>>>>>>> can go to www.eclipse.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Varun
>>>>>>> Khosla
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:35 AM
>>>>>>> To: programmingblind
>>>>>>> Subject: Accessible Java Development Environment
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello friends,
>>>>>>> Recently I ask for a good java book and included my another query in
>>>>>>> the same email. I realized later that the subject formed,
>>>>>>> concentrated only on the book query and as a result, it overshadowed
>>>>>>> the other query . So here's my other query:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe there must be many VIs out here who have worked a bit (some
>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>> lot) on java - so which is your favorite (or at least prefered)
>>>>>>> development environment strictly in terms of accessibility. I have
>>>>>>> heard of Netbeans, how much accessible is it? I would like to start
>>>>>>> with Java but don't want to frustrate me by wasting tuns of hours in
>>>>>>> finding an accessible way of working on it. I also have an expression
>>>>>>> that java apps (so does
>>>>>>> development) are poor in accessibility - I wish that this terns out
>>>>>>> to be my prejudice. Thanks for any help!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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