RE: Accessible Java Development Environment

Hi Listers,

Is there any hope of the U M L tool being completted?

Susie Stanzel 

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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:21 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Accessible Java Development Environment

a note, on UML diagrams, I have an application on my grab bag site that is a 
useable but uncompleted UML tool for the VI.

HTH,
elf
proprietor, The Grab Bag,
for blind computer users and programmers
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!"
www.alacorncomputer.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Macarty, Jay {PBSG}" <Jay.Macarty@xxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:06 PM
Subject: RE: Accessible Java Development Environment


I use no add-on scripts for Eclipse with Jaws. For window-Eyes, I do have a 
set file defined because some of the commonly used eclipse short-cut keys 
are also Window-Eyes keys. For example, in Eclipse, you can press 
shift+ctrl+e to bring up a list of all your open editor windows in a list. 
You can then just arrow to the one you want and hit enter to go to that edit 
window. Unfortunately, Window-Eyes also uses shift+ctrl+e as one of its 
hotkeys.

NOTE: One nice thing about using shift+ctrl+e is that there will be an 
asterisk beside any program name which has been modified but which hasn't 
been saved as yet. Therefore, when you have a number of classes up in editor 
windows, as I often do, you can quickly find out which ones have been 
updated but not yet saved/compiled.

Of course, there are some eclipse plug-in features, such as UML drawing 
tools, that are not accessible. However, I have found the majority of the 
Eclipse features to be accessible without any special scripting. You just 
have to learn how to navigate to where you want to be.


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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Varun Khosla
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:47 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Accessible Java Development Environment

Hi Jay,
wonderful features ... I think I've got what I was looking for.
Eclipse, it's got all the features I'm used to of in visual studio.
Guess what? I've downloaded Eclipse for java enterprise application 
development (170 mb or so). Is there any jaws script for Eclipse required to 
have these features accessible for VIs?

Thanks,
Varun



On 10/16/09, Macarty, Jay  {PBSG} <Jay.Macarty@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yes, Eclipse has functionality similar to intellisense. I use it 
> constantly.
> Eclipse also can offer a number of source code options like formatting
> or code templates. You can do things like select a line of code and
> then press
> alt+s and select surround with try/catch and eclipse will
> alt+automatically put
> in the try and catch blocks appropriate to the code selected. You can
> do things like define a set of private variables and then have Eclipse
> automatically generate all the public getter and setter methods. One
> of the code templates I use most frequently is the one for putting in
> System.out.println statement. You can type the letters sysout and then
> press
> ctrl+space bar and Eclipse will generate System.out.println(); and put
> ctrl+the
> cursor between the ( and ). You can select a variable name and press
> alt+r for the refactor menu and select rename. When you enter the new
> name, you can tell eclipse to find and replace the references to the
> old name with the new one. This is especially helpful because you can
> do the same thing for a method name, a class name, or even a package
> name. If you are unsure as to the correct import for a given object
> but you are sure you have the appropriate jars, you can put your
> cursor on the object name and press
> ctrl+shift+m and Eclipse will find the package that object belongs to
> ctrl+shift+and
> insert the import statement at the top of your code. If the object
> type is found in more than one package, you will be prompted to select
> the one you want from a list. For example the object type Date could
> be either java.util.Date or java.sql.Date.
>
> So, Eclipse offers many, many ways of helping you rapidly develop your
> projects. If you get the version of Eclipse designed for web
> development, then, yes you can develop JSP pages or web services.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Varun
> Khosla
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:21 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Accessible Java Development Environment
>
> Hi Jay,
> wonderful, I am curious about Eclipse. Few questions about it. Does it
> have accessible intellisense like thing? (it really helps in
> programming, especially for case-sensitive languages.) Are We able to
> develop all types of java programs (including JSPs) with Eclipse?
> I will also look at it on the link you provided; thanks
>
>
> On 10/14/09, Macarty, Jay  {PBSG} <Jay.Macarty@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Varunh,
>>
>> A good part of my job is java programming. I use both JAWS and
>> Window-Eyes depending on which fits a given situation best. The java
>> development environment I use is Eclipse. It is quite accessible with
>> either screen reader. I set up a few function keys to jump between
>> various windows easier such as f6 to go to the compile results pane,
>> f7 to go to the tree showing my project files, and f8 to go to the
>> console output pane. Key f12 is, by default, already set up to take
>> you back to the editor pane from most anywhere else you might be.
>> This gives me quick access to the panes I use the most.
>>
>> I have eclipse set up to compile a program automatically when it is
>> saved; thus, I can enter code in the editor pane, press ctrl+s to
>> save/compile it, and then press f6 to go to the compile results pane
>> to check for errors or warnings.
>>
>> If you want to read more about Eclipse and get the free download, you
>> can go to www.eclipse.org
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Varun
>> Khosla
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:35 AM
>> To: programmingblind
>> Subject: Accessible Java Development Environment
>>
>> Hello friends,
>> Recently I ask for a good java book and included my another query in
>> the same email. I realized later that the subject formed,
>> concentrated only on the book query and as a result, it overshadowed
>> the other query . So here's my other query:
>>
>> I believe there must be many VIs out here who have worked a bit (some
>> have a
>> lot) on java - so which is your favorite (or at least prefered)
>> development environment strictly in terms of accessibility. I have
>> heard of Netbeans, how much accessible is it? I would like to start
>> with Java but don't want to frustrate me by wasting tuns of hours in
>> finding an accessible way of working on it. I also have an expression
>> that java apps (so does
>> development) are poor in accessibility - I wish that this terns out
>> to be my prejudice. Thanks for any help!
>>
>>
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