Re: Accessible Adobe Photoshop and flash
- From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:03:46 -0700
here we go with this again, *sigh* we have had a professional web designer out
here, who was and is blind... invited by James homme, and he spoke long and
straight forward about this...
later,
inthane
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----- Original Message -----
From: Octavian Rasnita
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Adobe Photoshop and flash
Web site development could mean very many things, so they can tell you to do
many things that are absolutely inaccessible for a blind.
It could mean server side programming, client side programming, database
development, server and network administration, and these are accessible, but
it could also mean web design which is not accessible, or so low accessible
that it would not help any blind person to become a professional web designer.
Discrimination means very many things also. Nothing could exist without
beeing discriminatory for some persons.
For the blind perspective, something absolutely not discriminatory would be
something which has the same accessibility level for everyone, no matter if
they can see or not.
In your case, if the other sighted persons would be able to do what that
program requires, without using the display, it wouldn't be discriminatory, but
it couldn't be that way, because all the sighted persons think that "sighted is
normal", while "blind is not normal".
In this case, you could ask them to allow you not to follow the classes that
requires using the mouse, because you cannot use a mouse.
If the professors or other students would be able to do what you need to do
without a mouse but only with the keyboard, than I think you would be able to
do it also.
Forcing a blind computer programmer to use a mouse could mean discrimination.
Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: marvin hunkin
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 7:24 AM
Subject: Accessible Adobe Photoshop and flash
Hi.
well, next year looking at doing the diploma in information technology,
website development.
a couple of challenges i have, is that a couple of units, i probably will
not be able to do, as one is to use advanced and basic features of adobe
photoshop, to crop, manipulate images, and create 2d and 3d animation, using
adobe flash, as part of my major project.
Now, the National Traning Information System, which is governed by a
national curriculum, for tafe across Australia, and comes from the department
of education, canberra.
now, as i will have trouble being deemed competent, because jaws, will not
work with this software, as a core part of the course, and i have spoken to my
disability office and the main lecturer, who organises the learning curriculum
and talks to other lecturers.
they will be using adobe photo shop, adobe flash.
i know, i could probably use the flash development kit, but the major
challenge is the graphics side of things. So they are willing to bend, in
their curriculum, as they said i would have an advantage, if i had sighted help
to crop, edit and manipulate the objects.
so, got any tips, tricks, or any work arounds for that, or is this a
dissability discrimination act complaint, that might change their mind and bend
to accomodate, not just me, but another vision impaired friend of mine is doing
the same diploma with new south wales tafe, as this is a national curriculum,
and has been rolled out as the new training package for the past 12 months.
if you can let me know, how to get round this problem, as the other
subjects, i should be able to use php, editor, my sql database, visual
studio.net 2005, for the asp stuff, etc.
if anyone has had the same problem or situation, let me know asap.
having a meeting soon to review what i have done this year for certificate
iv in website development.
cheers marvin.
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