RE: Accessibility of the Mac Minnie for office, web and development.


Let me point out it took a lot of work to find your reply to this.  You
really should put your reply above all the last post.  If that is true maybe
I will just purchase IWork and their numbers program its only $82 anyway.  I
think its stupid to put Microsoft office on a Mac anyway if your really a
Mac nut you should use Mac stuff.

Ken 

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of lras@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:59 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Accessibility of the Mac Minnie for office, web and
development.



-----Original Message-----
>From: Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Feb 29, 2008 12:40 PM
>To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: Accessibility of the Mac Minnie for office, web and
development.
>
>
>
>I just installed a Mac at work with a  20 inch screen with no vision at
all.
>It not only has a talking install but it also gave me a tutorial on 
>Voice over when it started up.  I am not a Mac nut and do not like the 
>interface but as for accessibility and doing everything you just 
>mentioned it is fully accessible and all you asked about is possible.  
>Something you will find coming from a window environment though is it 
>is very different and will be tough to switch to.  After the switch 
>though it works well.  I will say though that I have now installed 
>Ubuntu, Vista, and Mac and Mac was the easiest install.  The voice is 
>very good and very responsive.  I have not used Microsoft Office on it 
>yet or Iwork yet because we have not purchased a copy of it for the Mac 
>yet.  That will happen in the next couple weeks though and then I will 
>be able to comment more from a Mac beginners stand point on how easy it is
to use.
>
>I would suggest if you have a friend that loves his mac so much then do 
>some web browsing there is a Mac blind users group and there are 
>documents on all the key presses you need to know.  Just go over to 
>your friends house and press the Apple key-F5 and your off and running 
>with a talking Mac.  That way you would have him there to tell you when 
>you are messing things up.  I do find one thing really annoying if your 
>not careful on your Desktop and application list you can rename everything
just by pressing enter on it.
>That's right you don't press enter to open an application you Press 
>Apple - O which is probably one of the hardest things to stop your 
>finger from doing.  If you take your enter key off your Windows box a 
>month before you start using the Mac you might do ok.
>
>Ken   
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
>Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:20 AM
>To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 
>program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Accessibility of the Mac Minnie for office, web and development.
>
>Hi All.
>
>I'm sure this has been spoken about so many times but I've not been 
>interested before.
>
>One of the guys at work has been talking about his mac and I'm pretty 
>impressed.
>
>I'm thinking about one for home and I'm wondering about accessibility.
>I know there's Voice Over which is the built in screen reader. How good 
>is this, how does it compare to the plethora of windows screen readers.
>
>Mostly I'd want to do email, office type applications, read books which 
>are plain text or html, brows the web, maybe a bit of IM.
>
>I'd also want to develop PHP on it and some C++. what are the 
>development environments like, how accessible are they?
>
>Any information gratefully received.
>Cheers.
>Nick.
>
>
>
>Nick Adamson
>Software Engineer
>General Dynamics United Kingdom Limited
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I have heard that MS Office for the Mac is not accessible at all, because
Microsoft didn't follow Apple's accessibility standards.  
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