RE: Accessibility of the Mac Minnie for office, web and development.

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  • Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:59:04 -0500 (GMT-05:00)


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>From: Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Feb 29, 2008 12:40 PM
>To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: Accessibility of the Mac Minnie for office, web and development.
>
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>I just installed a Mac at work with a  20 inch screen with no vision at all.
>It not only has a talking install but it also gave me a tutorial on Voice
>over when it started up.  I am not a Mac nut and do not like the interface
>but as for accessibility and doing everything you just mentioned it is fully
>accessible and all you asked about is possible.  Something you will find
>coming from a window environment though is it is very different and will be
>tough to switch to.  After the switch though it works well.  I will say
>though that I have now installed Ubuntu, Vista, and Mac and Mac was the
>easiest install.  The voice is very good and very responsive.  I have not
>used Microsoft Office on it yet or Iwork yet because we have not purchased a
>copy of it for the Mac yet.  That will happen in the next couple weeks
>though and then I will be able to comment more from a Mac beginners stand
>point on how easy it is to use. 
>
>I would suggest if you have a friend that loves his mac so much then do some
>web browsing there is a Mac blind users group and there are documents on all
>the key presses you need to know.  Just go over to your friends house and
>press the Apple key-F5 and your off and running with a talking Mac.  That
>way you would have him there to tell you when you are messing things up.  I
>do find one thing really annoying if your not careful on your Desktop and
>application list you can rename everything just by pressing enter on it.
>That's right you don't press enter to open an application you Press Apple -
>O which is probably one of the hardest things to stop your finger from
>doing.  If you take your enter key off your Windows box a month before you
>start using the Mac you might do ok.
>
>Ken   
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:20 AM
>To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Accessibility of the Mac Minnie for office, web and development.
>
>Hi All.
>
>I'm sure this has been spoken about so many times but I've not been
>interested before.
>
>One of the guys at work has been talking about his mac and I'm pretty
>impressed.
>
>I'm thinking about one for home and I'm wondering about accessibility.
>I know there's Voice Over which is the built in screen reader. How good is
>this, how does it compare to the plethora of windows screen readers.
>
>Mostly I'd want to do email, office type applications, read books which are
>plain text or html, brows the web, maybe a bit of IM.
>
>I'd also want to develop PHP on it and some C++. what are the development
>environments like, how accessible are they?
>
>Any information gratefully received.
>Cheers.
>Nick.
>
>
>
>Nick Adamson
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>General Dynamics United Kingdom Limited
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I have heard that MS Office for the Mac is not accessible at all, because 
Microsoft didn't follow Apple's accessibility standards.  
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