RE: Accessibility of the Mac Minnie for office, web and development.

  • From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:27:28 -0500

I don't think MS Office for Mac supports the accessibility API and, without
such, VoiceOver won't work.  This information is old, though, and may have
changed since the Leopard release. 

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:40 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Accessibility of the Mac Minnie for office, web and
development.



I just installed a Mac at work with a  20 inch screen with no vision at all.
It not only has a talking install but it also gave me a tutorial on Voice
over when it started up.  I am not a Mac nut and do not like the interface
but as for accessibility and doing everything you just mentioned it is fully
accessible and all you asked about is possible.  Something you will find
coming from a window environment though is it is very different and will be
tough to switch to.  After the switch though it works well.  I will say
though that I have now installed Ubuntu, Vista, and Mac and Mac was the
easiest install.  The voice is very good and very responsive.  I have not
used Microsoft Office on it yet or Iwork yet because we have not purchased a
copy of it for the Mac yet.  That will happen in the next couple weeks
though and then I will be able to comment more from a Mac beginners stand
point on how easy it is to use. 

I would suggest if you have a friend that loves his mac so much then do some
web browsing there is a Mac blind users group and there are documents on all
the key presses you need to know.  Just go over to your friends house and
press the Apple key-F5 and your off and running with a talking Mac.  That
way you would have him there to tell you when you are messing things up.  I
do find one thing really annoying if your not careful on your Desktop and
application list you can rename everything just by pressing enter on it.
That's right you don't press enter to open an application you Press Apple -
O which is probably one of the hardest things to stop your finger from
doing.  If you take your enter key off your Windows box a month before you
start using the Mac you might do ok.

Ken   

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:20 AM
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Accessibility of the Mac Minnie for office, web and development.

Hi All.

I'm sure this has been spoken about so many times but I've not been
interested before.

One of the guys at work has been talking about his mac and I'm pretty
impressed.

I'm thinking about one for home and I'm wondering about accessibility.
I know there's Voice Over which is the built in screen reader. How good is
this, how does it compare to the plethora of windows screen readers.

Mostly I'd want to do email, office type applications, read books which are
plain text or html, brows the web, maybe a bit of IM.

I'd also want to develop PHP on it and some C++. what are the development
environments like, how accessible are they?

Any information gratefully received.
Cheers.
Nick.



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