RE: About accessible technology for multiple platforms

  • From: "Stanzel, Susan - Kansas City, MO" <susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:17:18 -0500

hHi listers,

My machine did it again. I hear the keys being pushed and don't really know 
they are not reaching the message. When I find this out I just have to restart. 
If any of you have ever had this problem, I sure could use a hint. I am using 
JAWS 10.

Anyway, I wrote to say I am using JAWS and am very interested in this subject 
since I have not done that old fashioned COBOL for two years and don't have any 
intention of doing it again.

Susie

P.S. Also, I want to point out that our own Sina is an NFB scholarship winner. 
I know you are hoping for him to getthat big one.

Susie

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan - 
Kansas City, MO
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:50 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: About accessible technology for multiple platforms

Hi Jy,

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hoo t that bigoe 00.

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-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jay Macarty
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:35 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: About accessible technology for multiple platforms

Hi Sina, Laura, and Jared.

Thanks for the prompt and encouraging response. I guess some of the first 
questions we need to answer are the following:

* Where will the source code and binaries be stored?
* What type of licensing is most appropriate? I have some feedback from 
Peter Korn on that topic but would like to get the ideas from anyone on the 
list as wel.
* Who will be the owning person or group of the project?
* Currently, WE4Java is more or less geared specifically for Window-Eyes 
usage. If we are going to turn this into a truly multi-platform solution, I 
think we are going to have to begin hthinking of a more generalized design 
approach. That is one reason I wanted to get away from the  dependency on 
the Jacob COM API and the wsc bridge between WE4Java and Window-Eyes. I 
certainly don't want to move away from allowing Window-Eyes to use the java 
access technology. I just think we need to create a generalized java core 
with a JNI interface in which one dll would be written for Window-Eyes usage 
but other implementations could be written as well.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:17 PM
Subject: RE: About accessible technology for multiple platforms


> Hey Jay,
>
> I'm extremely saddened to hear about this. Please feel free to email me 
> off line. My father recently battled with colon cancer , so
> I'm all to familiar with it in that respect.
>
> Also, I remember us discussing various java accessibility related issues 
> with Mike Grace, if you remember him. He's moved on to
> security related research these days, but let's chat off list.
>
> All the best to you
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jay Macarty
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:43 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: About accessible technology for multiple platforms
>
> Hi All,
>
> My name is Jay Macarty and I am the author of the java accessibility 
> software for Window-Eyes called WE4Java. For the past 7 months,
> I have been battleing colon cancer and thus, have not been able to devote 
> much time to the completion of this software. Given my
> current health condition and work load, I can see that it is not going to 
> be posible for me to continue work on this project without
> inviting some outside developer assistance. I would be more than happy to 
> talk to anyone interested in taking the foundation of
> WE4Java and building it out to a more flexible and complete product. I 
> hate giving up years of effort and thousands of hours of
> programming for nothing but as things stand, I don't see how to keep 
> moving this project forwardn without opening up the source in
> some form or another.
>
> My last thought on this matter was to try to enlist the help of a C++ 
> developer to create a dll to interface directly with the
> WE4Java code base using java's native interface, JNI, instead of going 
> through the existing wsc object and the third-party Jacob COM
> API. I would invite any thoughts or feedback on this topic to see if we 
> can form some type of collaborative effort to finish this
> package out.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "katherine Moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:00 PM
> Subject: RE: Vs 2010
>
>
>>I am loving VS 2010 right now, and I look forward to using it more as I
>> learn C#, ASP.net, and SQL to go along with it.  The only thing I can't
>> find
>> is a darn book on the program to save my life.  You know how sucky
>> Microsoft's documentation is.  LOL.
>>
>> Katherine
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 3:17 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Vs 2010
>>
>> no coordinated effort as far as I know at this time, it has been 
>> mentioned
>> though.
>>
>> elf
>> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
>> for blind computer users and programmers
>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>> Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
>> - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!
>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gomal Tao" <gomal.tao@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:19 AM
>> Subject: Vs 2010
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am experimenting with Visual Studio 2010 using the latest jaws 11
>>> update.
>>> So far the studio seems to be quite accessible. Writing code in the
>>> editor
>>> works all right. The problem I am having is that the studio changes 
>>> focus
>>> for jaws all the time. I need to press a lot of keys to come back to the
>>> code editor. The menus works perfectly and the jaws cursor can follow
>>> navigating menues.
>>>
>>> I am trying to use the visual editors for the Entity framework. With 
>>> some
>>> jaws scripting it should be possible to give a jaws user access to these
>>> editors.
>>>
>>> There is a lot more to explore and try out for JAWS. Is there any work
>>> going
>>> on to create JAWS script for visual studio 2010?
>>>
>>> /Gabriel
>>>
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