Re: A Step Backwards
- From: "E.J. Zufelt" <lists@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:25:39 -0400
There are generally two thoughts on this decision.
1. People are going to use tables for layout, allowing for role="presentation"
provides an explicit method of indicating that a table is part of presentation,
and not semantic.
2. Tables should never be used for presentation, all markup should be semantic
and all presentation should be performed with CSS.
I am on the fence, it is most likely that those using tables for layout will
not know or care about role="presentation". I prefer the standardist approach,
where * all * markup is for semantics, and not for presentation. That being
said, is this decision really going to make a big difference on the usability
accessibility of a site, likely not.
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On 2011-03-16, at 10:19 AM, Ken Perry wrote:
> I don't see that as a step backwards since they force the role attribute.
>
> ken
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:37 AM
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> Subject: A Step Backwards
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> Does anyone know about this?
> begin extract
>> Therefore, the HTML Working Group hereby adopts the "Allow tables
> to be >used for presentational purposes" Proposal for ISSUE-130. Of
> the Change Proposals before us, this one has drawn the weaker objections.
> In short, this means that HTML5 rescinds HTML4's guidance on the use
> of the table markup structure for its presentational layout
> attributes, such that such use will now be HTML5-valid, provided said
> table has a role attribute set to "presentation" [1].
> end extract
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