Hi: It seems as though I live in a parallel universe as it relates to the job environment. Where I work, the emphasis is on experience and the core skill sets that we attain during the years of service. Its expected that a given level you must meet the core levels but as to the specifics of whether you are a JCL / HTML / COBOL / Java developer those unique skill sets are part of the day to day job and are offered to us through our education plan. Jim -----Original Message----- From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Fidler Sent: August 23, 2010 16:27 To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [program-java] Re: Java certification Hello, Susie. In the corporation at which I am presently employed, it is required for senior Java developers and junior architects to have their SCJP certification. (I am currently studying for the SCJP myself, and also am quite curious to learn what it may entail for a blind applicant as my promotion to senior developer technical lead is contingent upon it!) Also, those with these certifications generally receive about a + $10K salary offer when compared against those having equal work experience but without the official Sun certifications in the local market. The same holds true for .NET developers in the western Pennsylvania area, too. Those with the official Microsoft certifications are being offered significantly higher salaries when compared to those with equivalent experience but no certification in the majority of cases. I think the important thing to discover is which certifications are meaningful and which are not. I think those offered by Sun, Oracle, and Microsoft, to name a few of the big ones, carry some substantial weight. I'll certainly share what I learn regarding the SCJP certification process. Kind regards, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Corbett, James" <James.Corbett@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:11 PM Subject: [program-java] Re: Java certification > Ok, still not worth anything. Try looking at the SUN site for these > certification courses.... All they really are is a piece of paper that can > be hung on the wall. > > If you must have the wall furniture to get ahead we can actually look at a > particular course together. I have certification in Basic Java, > Intermediate Java, Struts 1.3 and J2E 3.0. > > J. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan - > Kansas City, MO > Sent: August 23, 2010 15:47 > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [program-java] Re: Java certification > > I asked a friend what he has and he has a "Sun Certified Java Programmer" > certification. > > > > Susie > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan - > Kansas City, MO > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 2:42 PM > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [program-java] Java certification > > > > We seem to have two threads going. To get back to my question. I am > looking into certification. I will be working in the persistence area with > validation and using Struts. > > > > Susie Stanzel > > >