[program-java] Re: Java certification

Hi Richard.
I find your work very interesting and thank you for your efforts. I am
completely blind. I recently graduated in computer science and I am
interested in simulation and game programming as a hobby. I think your
work on physics may help me understand what I am doing a bit better.

On 12/17/11, Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO
<susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I echo Jim. It is wonderful having such a resource on the list.
>
> Susie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:56 PM
> To: 'program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [program-java] Re: Java certification
>
> Grea to hear that we have another SWT resource on the list. I've been
> developing with Eclipse / SWT since about 2005 and favor it over SWING / AWT
> any day.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Baldwin
> Sent: December 16, 2011 15:51
> To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [program-java] Re: Java certification
>
> Susan - no offense taken. Even with 14 years of continuous Java programming
> and teaching experience, I wouldn't relish the thought of having to spend
> time cramming the subtle details for the certification exam.
>
> Jim - There are many factors, including the fact that I am annotating a
> tutorial written several years ago by someone else in an attempt to make
> that tutorial accessible.
>
> Perhaps the greatest factor derives from the fact that I am producing SVG
> files for most of the drawings in the portion of the material that I am
> writing and some of the drawings in the older tutorial that I am annotating.
>   This will make it possible for students to use an embosser or swell paper
> to produce tactile versions of those drawings.
>
> I am also converting everything from Swing to SWT to make it accessible.
> Basically, I wrote all of the code for my material several years ago with no
> thought given to accessibility. Now I am having to rewrite all of that code
> using SWT in place of Swing and having to update the existing code to
> produce the SVG output files.
>
> Dick Baldwin
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City, MO
> <susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>         WOW am I impressed. I had not examined your website yet. If my job
> didn't require this certification for promotion I would not even think about
> it. It makes me tired to think of spending all this time so I can try to
> take it. I am sorry I offended you. I was just trying to find someone else
> besides Jim Corbett who is blind and certified.
>
>
>
>         Susie
>
>
>
>         From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Baldwin
>         Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:15 PM
>
>
>         To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         Subject: [program-java] Re: Java certification
>
>
>
>
>
>         I'm not blind.
>
>
>
>         If you examine my website carefully
> (http://www.dickbaldwin.com/toc.htm), you will see that I began publishing
> online Java tutorials in 1997, which I believe, was before Java
> certification from Sun was even available.
>
>
>
>         During the past 14 years, I have published more than 600 free online
> Java tutorials ranging from Java fundamentals
> (http://www.dickbaldwin.com/tocknowledge.htm) to such topics as Adaptive
> Prediction using Java
> (http://www.developer.com/java/other/article.php/3610806) and Redeye
> Correction in Digital Photographs
> (http://www.dickbaldwin.com/java/Java363.htm).
>
>
>
>         During that period, I have taught object-oriented programming to
> approximately1500 students using Java, C#, and C++.
>
>
>
>         My most recent Java programming effort is a freely downloadable
> program named SVGDraw01, which makes it possible for blind students to draw
> just about anything they can imagine
> (http://www.austincc.edu/baldwin/SWT-SVG/SVGDraw01.zip). In order to write
> that program and make it accessible, I had to learn to program using SWT
> instead of Swing. That was interesting.
>
>
>
>         I am currently in the process of publishing new course material for
> a course titled Mathematical Applications for Game Development at
> http://www.access2science.com/rbg/ I am striving to make that material as
> accessible as possible, which increases the time and effort required to
> write the material by at least a factor of five.
>
>
>
>         I recently published Accessible Physics Concepts for Blind Students
> at http://cnx.org/content/col11294/latest/, which was showcased in "How a
> Professor Gave a Blind Student a New Outlook on Science" at
> http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcampus/how-a-professor-gave-a-blind-student-a-new-outlook-on-science/34424
>
>
>
>         I believe you are the first person ever to ask if I am certified. I
> am not. I have never felt the need to spend the money to take the
> certification test.
>
>
>
>         Dick Baldwin
>
>         On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Homme, James
> <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>         Hi Suzie,
>
>         You shouldn't ask him if he's certified. That's not nice. <grin>
>
>
>
>         Jim
>
>
>
>         From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan -
> FSA, Kansas City, MO
>         Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:22 PM
>
>
>         To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         Subject: [program-java] Re: Java certification
>
>
>
>         Dick:
>
>
>
>         Are you blind and are you certified? If the answer to both questions
> is yes, do you have any helping hints? What assistive technology did you
> take in? How much extra time were you given?
>
>
>
>         Susie
>
>
>
>         From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Baldwin
>         Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 1:08 PM
>         To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         Subject: [program-java] Re: Java certification
>
>
>
>         The material was written when Java 1.4 was current.
>
>
>
>         With the possible exception of focus traversal, I doubt that you
> will find that any of the additions to Java since v1.4 have deprecated the
> material from v1.4. If that is a concern, I believe that Sun has maintained
> a list of deprecated classes and methods somewhere on their website. Java
> 1.5 included major changes to focus traversal that broke a lot of code that
> was written earlier.
>
>
>
>         Of course, there have been a number of additions to Java since v1.4,
> such as the addition of generics in v1.5, but the fundamentals haven't
> changed.
>
>
>
>         By the way, Java 1.7 has now been released. We will start using it
> in our computer labs in the Spring semester. The most significant difference
> that I have found so far between 1.6 and 1.7 is that programs compiled using
> the 1.7 compiler cannot be executed using the 1.6 JRE.
>
>
>
>         Dick Baldwin
>
>         On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Stanzel, Susan - FSA, Kansas City,
> MO <susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>         Thank you for this link
>
>         http://www.dickbaldwin.com/toc.htm
>
>
>
>         I looked at it for a minute. Is it just Java 1.4? I am studying for
> Java 6.
>
>
>
>         Susie
>
>
>
>         From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Baldwin
>         Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 11:27 AM
>
>
>         To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         Subject: [program-java] Re: Java certification
>
>
>
>         The material is somewhat dated, but you may find the material linked
> to "Test Your Java Knowledge" at http://www.dickbaldwin.com/toc.htm useful.
>
>
>
>         If you take a look at it and find it useful, let me know and I will
> send you a set of clean html files without the advertisements.
>
>
>
>         Dick Baldwin
>
>         On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Corbett, James
> <James.Corbett@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>         At the time there were plenty of free sample exams. I had at one
> time compiled a sizable document with questions but my lap top was stolen
> and well you know the rest of the story.
>
>
>         Jim
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan -
> FSA, Kansas City, MO
>
>         Sent: December 16, 2011 11:44
>         To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         Subject: [program-java] Re: Java certification
>
>         Where do I find online free exams? Whizlabs costs $100 and up.
>
>         Susie
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
>         Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 10:43 AM
>         To: 'program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
>         Subject: [program-java] Re: Java certification
>
>         Suzy:
>
>         I had a friend / mentor that worked me through the curriculum and we
> / I took as many on line free exams as possible.
>
>         Jim
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan -
> FSA, Kansas City, MO
>         Sent: December 16, 2011 11:33
>         To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         Subject: [program-java] Re: Java certification
>
>         Jim C,
>
>         How did you study for the exam? I remember you didn't finish it, but
> I am really impressed you still passed it.
>
>         Susie
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
>         Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 10:05 AM
>         To: 'program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
>         Subject: [program-java] Re: Java certification
>
>         Suzan:
>
>         I know this was directed to others but allow me to answer using my
> experiences.
>
>         1. Adaptive Tech.
>
>                Once I explained the reason for such all was well.
>
>         2. Time.
>
>                I had double the length of time in a room by myself and a
> proctor.
>
>         Jim
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan -
> FSA, Kansas City, MO
>         Sent: December 16, 2011 10:59
>         To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         Subject: [program-java] Java certification
>
>         Hi Listers,
>
>
>
>         I have been told I must pass the S C J P certification for any hope
> of a promotion. I know Jim Corbett has passed the exam. I would love to hear
> from anyone else. Jim is in Canada so his experience with the testing
> organization might be different than what others have had in the United
> States. My questions would be what was your study method? What was the
> reaction when you wanted to take your assistive technology to be used? I
> would like to have both my JAWS and Braille display. I find it much easier
> to keep track of everything like those parenthesis. Did any of you get the
> practice test from whizlabs? How many times did you have to take the exam to
> pass it? How much time were you given?
>
>
>
>         Susie Stanzel
>
>         Programmer for the United States Department of Agriculture
>
>
>
>         I am really hoping for a response on this
>
>
>
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>
>         --
>         Richard G. Baldwin (Dick Baldwin)
>         Home of Baldwin's on-line Java Tutorials
>         http://www.DickBaldwin.com
>
>         Professor of Computer Information Technology
>         Austin Community College
>         (512) 223-4758 <tel:%28512%29%20223-4758>
>         mailto:Baldwin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         http://www.austincc.edu/baldwin/
>
>
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>
>
>         --
>         Richard G. Baldwin (Dick Baldwin)
>         Home of Baldwin's on-line Java Tutorials
>         http://www.DickBaldwin.com
>
>         Professor of Computer Information Technology
>         Austin Community College
>         (512) 223-4758 <tel:%28512%29%20223-4758>
>         mailto:Baldwin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         http://www.austincc.edu/baldwin/
>
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>         --
>         Richard G. Baldwin (Dick Baldwin)
>         Home of Baldwin's on-line Java Tutorials
>         http://www.DickBaldwin.com
>
>         Professor of Computer Information Technology
>         Austin Community College
>         (512) 223-4758 <tel:%28512%29%20223-4758>
>         mailto:Baldwin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         http://www.austincc.edu/baldwin/
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> Richard G. Baldwin (Dick Baldwin)
> Home of Baldwin's on-line Java Tutorials http://www.DickBaldwin.com
>
> Professor of Computer Information Technology Austin Community College
> (512) 223-4758
> mailto:Baldwin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.austincc.edu/baldwin/
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