[program-java] Re: Eclipse and Netbeans

  • From: Anna Giller <anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:46:20 -0400

Jim,

 

Why not to use Eclipse at least for editing and compiling?

It has so useful automatic features like content assist, source formatting,
etc. I can't develop without these features.

Can I combine Eclipse with another building/deploying tool?

 

Thanks,

Anna

 

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From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:55 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Eclipse and Netbeans

 

Anna:

 

...for what most of us need to do, either MS Notepad or Textpad will
suffice.

 

Jim 

 

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From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anna Giller
Sent: June 16, 2009 10:54
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Eclipse and Netbeans

Jim,

 

You're right, so far I've been using Glassfish, but it was for learning
purposes only.

Now I need to move to the real environment, and this is where the problem
with IDE comes up. I'm not sure which app server they are using. It should
not be a problem, because all servers are accessible from the internet.

Please tell me, how accessible ANT is.

Is it not based on the command line?

 

Thank you,

Anna

 

 

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From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:45 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Eclipse and Netbeans

 

Anna:

 

...ant is a useful build utility which really one does not need to learn
aside from the configuration. On the other hand Weblogic is my server where
my .ear is deployed. I seem to remember that you had the Glass Fish server
at one time or another. Again with servers, its more the configuration of
them then the real every day use of same.

 

Jim 

 

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From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anna Giller
Sent: June 16, 2009 10:39
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Eclipse and Netbeans

Jim,

 

Should I consider learning these utilities?

Will it make my web applications compatible with the ones created in IDEs?

I would like to learn one environment and then stay with it. 

Do you think ANT will do it for me?

If so, would you please advise me on how to learn it fast.

 

Thank you very much,

Anna

 

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From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:29 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Eclipse and Netbeans

 

Anna:

 

We use ant and Weblogic 10.3.

 

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From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anna Giller
Sent: June 16, 2009 10:28
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Eclipse and Netbeans

Jim,

 

Which tool do you use for building and deploying web applications?

 

Thank you,

Anna

 

 

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From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:22 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Eclipse and Netbeans

 

Anna:

 

In my shop half of the users are coding in JBuilder while the rest of us use
Eclipse. We work on the same apps so I don't know why your people would say
such a thing as the IDE's are not compatible, but then again I don't use
automated processes while developing opting to code by hand.

 

Jim 

 

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From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anna Giller
Sent: June 16, 2009 10:00
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Eclipse and Netbeans

Jim,

 

Yes, they use CVS.

Do you think it's possible to make Eclipse web applications Netbeans
competible?

 

Thank you very much,

Anna

 

 

From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:14 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Eclipse and Netbeans

 

Anna:

 

...are you and your team using a centralized source controller such as
WinCVS?

 

If a team member needs or is required to de-compile the .war or .ear file
then your development infrastructure needs much analysis.

 

Jim 

 

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From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anna Giller
Sent: June 15, 2009 09:58
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Eclipse and Netbeans

Hi Pam!

 

David is right, I do use automatic features of IDE, mostly because it's more
accessible.

Web project in IDE consists of application and system files and folders in a
precisestructure.

Each project also has a deployment descriptor that contains the information
about this project.

Both the file structure and the deployment descriptor are IDE specific.

Once WAR module is created it can be executed on the server regardless of
which IDE it was created with.

But when another team member needs to do a maintenance on my application, he
needs to decompress WAR module and this is where the problem is.

 

I'm looking for something like a conversion program between different IDEs.

 

Thank you very much,

Anna

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From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of William & Pamela
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 4:17 PM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 'David Sills'; pmcoats00@xxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Eclipse and Netbeans

 

Hi Anna, 

 

I spoke with a sighted person, (David), who is quite knowledgable in the
Java arina. I was confused that the IDE would make so much difference. Of
course, I didn't ask him about the accessibility of NetBeans. He probably
wouldn't be much help with that issue, but he did have a question. 

An excerpt from my e-mail to him, and his reply is below. Would you mind
trying to answer his question? 

 

Thanks, 

Pamela 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: William & Pamela [mailto:pmcoats00@xxxxxxx]

 

David, 

 

I was reading some e-mail I got from a listserv for blind users, and one of
the e-mails said that her office is requiring her to use NetBeans instead of
Eclipse. 

She said that they told her that web applications built and deployed from
Eclipse are not compatible with the ones created from Netbeans. 

 

I wouldn't have thought the IDE would make that much difference. Does it? 

 

Thanks,

Pamela 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

Pam:

 

Not so much the way we do it, but some people make considerably more use of
the automated features of the IDE, and that might be what she means.

You could ask, if you wouldn't mind - I would be interested in the details
of her opinion. It is for precisely this reason that I don't use IDE
"features" - they result in inconsistent code, which in the long run
(maintenance, I mean) results in lower productivity, whatever the temporary
gains.

 

 

From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anna Giller
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:22 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Eclipse and Netbeans

 

Hi Everyone!

 

I've been using Eclipse while learning Java.

Now I need to do real work, and I'm required to use Netbeans, because it's
what my shop is using.

They say that web applications built and deployed from Eclipse are not
compatible with the ones created from Netbeans.

Does anyone have an experience working with Netbeans?

How accessible is it?

 

Thank you very much,

Anna

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