[program-java] Re: Beginning Java Ramblings

  • From: "William & Pamela " <pmcoats00@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:08:16 -0500

So Struts would be a framework something like Spring? 

Thanks, 
Pamela 


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[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
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Subject: [program-java] Re: Beginning Java Ramblings

I don't think I would go that far, most of the apps both internal or
external for my agency is STRUTS driven and those who are hired directly out
of school are usually dropped straight into the web development role.

STRUTS or JSF programming is still just Java with a few kinks. Once you get
past the JSP - FormBean - Action class, it's just Java programming. STRUTS
is only a framework and for the most part is transparent. In our prod
environment a typical flow is the JSP servelet, the STRUTS servelet, to the
Action Class to the EJB layer to the DB and back again. It's all Java.

Jim


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[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan -
Kansas City, MO
Sent: February 3, 2011 10:19
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Subject: [program-java] Re: Beginning Java Ramblings

We use struts. Don't worry about this yet. You have a ways to go before you
need to know this. I don't know it yet and I can't imagine it being part of
the certification test.

Susie

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Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:02 AM
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Hi:

JSF (Java Server Faces) is similar to the STRUTS Open Source Framework.

Jim


James M. Corbett

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of William & Pamela
Sent: February 2, 2011 16:51
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Subject: [program-java] Re: Beginning Java Ramblings

Hi,

Question: Struts as opposed to what? If your project wasn't using Struts
what else would be equivalent to Struts?


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[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:57 AM
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Subject: [program-java] Re: Beginning Java Ramblings

Jim:

You can have many so called public interfaces to a STRUTS / Java application
and none of them have a Main but before you get confused let's just say that
for a desktop application at this point there is a single public interface.

Jim


James M. Corbett

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James
Sent: February 2, 2011 10:31
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Subject: [program-java] Beginning Java Ramblings

Hi,



Please keep in mind that all I have studied so far is the first programming
chapter of Java For Programmers, by Deitel. We don't get to anything but
public classes until Chapter 8. Is this anywhere in the ballpark?



Here's an analogy that seems to work for me. If you've ever worked with sub
programs in Cobol, a public class is  something like a Cobol subprogram. A
Cobol subprogram is a program all by itself, with its own working storage
and routines. You can execute it from another Cobol program. The main Cobol
program can see all of the variables and routines in the subprogram. I'm
pretty sure that like Java, Cobol forces you to have one program per file.
In Java, you have to have one public class per file.



At this point, we haven't talked about any other methods besides main, so
that's all we know about methods. We don't know about private or anything
else right now.







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