They don't have to win at all if you're arbing them. You can bias your stakes to make more when the horse doesn't win and vice versa. Or you can set it up to make an equal profit no matter what the result is. This is where a bit of racing knowledge could come in handy. If you think the horse has a good chance of winning, you would set it up to make the most profit for it winning but a small profit or break even if it doesn't. And vice versa if you think it has no chance. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "RaceStats" <racestats@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ppug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 12:07 AM Subject: [ppug] Re: Lay Systems > Hi Stebbo, > > I take it these bets are pretty much longshots? > One thing to consider when "arbing" them is that they have to win often > enough to cover your commission and make a profit. > It sounds like you're certainly on the right track though. > > Regards, > Lindsay. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stebbo" <ppug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ppug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 4:44 PM > Subject: [ppug] Re: Lay Systems > > > > G'Day All, > > > > had a bit of a test today on my lay system, and it went well. I found > that > > I was able to lay just on half my runners at *LESS* than the totes, > > sometimes up to $2 less than the average tote price... > > > > I also found a couple of good arbitrages, but wasn't quick enough to grab > > them... In one case I was able to lay something at $17 and it was > available > > to back at $21 fixed odds, and $40 MaxiDiv...... > > > > Looks promising so far. > > > > Cheers, > > Chris. > > > > ===== > > Unofficial Price Predictor Users Group > > To send email to the list: ppug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe/Options: //www.freelists.org/list/ppug > > Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/ppug > > Help : //www.freelists.org/help/ > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 28/08/2004 > ===== > Unofficial Price Predictor Users Group > To send email to the list: ppug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subscribe/Unsubscribe/Options: //www.freelists.org/list/ppug > Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/ppug > Help : //www.freelists.org/help/ > ===== Unofficial Price Predictor Users Group To send email to the list: ppug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subscribe/Unsubscribe/Options: //www.freelists.org/list/ppug Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/ppug Help : //www.freelists.org/help/