[ppi] [ppiindia] Special Services fight in the name of Allah and Putin

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Special Services fight in the name of Allah and Putin
03/26/2004 13:59

The following is an interview with Kakiev Said-Magomed Shamaev, commander of 
the "Western" battalion of the mountainous force of the United Forces in the 
Chechen republic, Major of the Russian Army. He was born on 22 February, 1970; 
completed 8 grades in Grozny; 1989-1991-served in Nagorny Karabakh. Afterwards, 
he studied at the University of Alma-Ata. From 1994 till 1994 served in an 
anti-Dudaev opposition. He is a four-time-hero of the Russian Federation. He 
was awarded with two medals for courage; received two inscribed guns from the 
Minister of Defense.

Question: Said-Magomed, how long has your resistance against Chechen extremists 
been lasting?

Said-Magomed Kakiev: After serving in the Sovier Army in Nagorny Karabakh in 
1991, I returned home, to the epicenter of events. I thought I would never come 
close to weapons ever again. I was wrong. Dudaev appeared in Chechnya stirring 
up major chaos, organized several criminal gangs in the region and I did not 
have any other choice but to fight with Dudaev"s bandits. That"s how I joined 
the opposition.

In 1993, we failed to assassinate Dudaev.when my hand grenade suddenly exploded 
in my hands. I lost an arm, one eye, my nose and got four cracks in my skull. 
My friend died right on the spot. Many assumed that I would never fight again; 
I was an invalid after all. However, thanks to the Almighty, I was able to 
recover, even though my appearance was totally changed. Doctors "mended" my 
entire body in a beauty salon in Moscow. I acquired a new face. No one could 
recognize me. I told myself, "I still have one hand; I still have a soul which 
is fully devoted to Russia." To me, Russia and Chechnya represent one entity. 
Personally, I was fighting for this unity; I will continue to fight for this 
unity till the end!
Question: You participated in the first Chechen campaign, including the bloody 
battle in Grozny.

Kakiev: I entered the city with my squad.  Back then we were apart of neither 
the Ministry of Internal Affairs nor the Ministry of Defense. We were motivated 
by one thing only-patriotism, love for our country and a strong will to put an 
end to Dudaev and his gangs. We were moving side by side with the Moscow"s riot 
squad and with special service forces. We were asked to help, since we knew the 
area pretty well, knew the language and could communicate with the locals.
We engaged in a bloody battle on the territory of "Eletropribor" factory in one 
of the regions of Grozny. We were even involved in ruthless bloody fistfights. 
Luckily, the riot squad and the special forces were by our side. One can hardly 
forget the events of those few days. We lost 7 of our guys. But we managed to 
destroy 29 gang members. The enemy had to retreat. Those were the people of 
commander Bazhiev. He is dead, now he is judged by the Almighty Allah.

Question: Why weren't armored forces used to the fullest extent in this 
invasion of Grozny?

Kakiev: This was an incredibly ruthless war. I felt terrible for those young 
boys. Many things were unclear.we tried to warn our allies, but no one listened 
to us. Order is an order, period! They assumed it was easy to conquer.do you 
know how many people we lost?

Question: There still remain some questions concerning the events of August 
1996. Did you witness those events?

Kakiev: On August 6th, I was patrolling Dagestanskaya Street. A house of the 
city's mayor Yakub Deniev was located on that street. His family belongs to the 
real saints. We were attacked by everyone, from every side. There was only 50 
of us. We were guarding the house. We were running out of weapons. 37 women and 
children were hiding in the basement there. Later, negotiations began and the 
"spirits" swore on Koran that they"ll let everyone go: all kids and women. I 
did not believe them from the start. We had a choice of either staying in the 
region and trusting those promises of the gang members or continue fighting. 
Everyone stayed. I left the place on my own. it took me seven days to leave 
Grozny.
The "spirits" in turn shot everyone to death in the house, including 30 of our 
troops. They later burned and immured them in the basement. It was only after 
two years that their bodies were recovered and sent to the Rostov"s laboratory. 
When the cort?ge with the bodies was traveling from Rostov to Chechnya, every 
singly militant's post was saluting them. As soon as they crossed the Chechen 
border, those Dudaev"s soldiers started yelling "Look at these traitors!" "Bury 
them in Russia!". We will never forget this! We are perfectly aware of the 
names of those beasts who committed such terrible crimes. They are Doku Umarov, 
Ruslan Gelaev and others.

Question: In 1996 you had to leave Chechnya, what happened then?

Kakiev: I was called an outlaw by Maskhadov. He promised a title of "Hero of 
Ichkeria" to the one who kills me. I could not get home for three years; 
haven"t seen my relatives. I"ve been living in Moscow for all these years. 
Since 1999, with the help of Allah and Putin, I managed to return to the 
republic. I was appointed assistant of the head of Nadterechni region, built 
two camps for refugees with heating and water. Then I signed a contract with 
the Ministry of Defense and left to fight.

Question: Many things have changed in Chechnya since those times. You are 
currently a chief of the Chechen special military unit.

Kaiev: True, the situation is different now. I am immensely proud that I am an 
officer of the Russian Army and a commander of the "Western" battalion. We 
cover the mountainous area of the republic. There is still much to be done 
there.

Question: Tell us about your medal "the hero of Russia"

Kakiev: I was awarded the title four times. The first time, I was awarded for 
storming Grozny and for raising Russian flag there; the second time-for the 
Komsomolskaya village, in an attempt to get Gelaev; afterwards-for a series of 
operations; finally, the fourth medal I received for an unsuccessful operation 
to neutralize Basaev"s "general".

Question: Official sources claim that Chechen militants disarm daily. Many are 
undergoing amnesty. How do you feel about it?

Kakiev: This is a normal process, especially taking into account the fact that 
majority of gang members have been defeated. Amnesty however, raises a lot of 
questions. How can one forgive those who were fighting against us? People say 
different things: that they are innocent, that they have not killed any 
religious leaders and so on. What did they do to 18-year-old boys, I wonder? 
That is why I do not understand such amnesty. True, we should forgive those who 
were forced to join the gangs against their will. But amnesty is a time-bomb. 
People have been fighting against a particular country, so many soldiers have 
died, and in the end no one is being held responsible? I will never submit to 
this. We are all mortals. How are we going to look in the eyes of those 
18-year-olds up there?
Blood should not be forgiven. One has to be responsible for murder. Those 
bandits lost their dignity. They are not people. Muslims cannot do such things. 
It turns out that all terrorist acts are committed by Basaev alone. No one else 
is responsible.
Yes, war kills people, but to torture dead bodies, that's obsecene. 
We managed to achieve so much with the help of Allah; we will be able to do 
much more to cleanse the land of such monsters.    
     
German Pronin
Source: Utro.Ru

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