[ppi] Re: [ppiindia] Bantuan Amerika

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Great, guys! 
 
Who has helped to slaughter the poor Indonesians? Not the Moslems? Who were so 
happy that the Indonesians were killed in 1965/66? Not your group? Who has 
helped the re-birth of the Islamic partys in Indonesia? Not the US?
 
A part of the fund given by the US was grants. Do you understand the meaning of 
grants?
 
Do you think, the Indonesian governments will be able to really repay the debts 
(if all of the assistances will be understood as debts)?
 
Have you the courage to saya : "Go to hell with you, US, and we will ban the US 
interests in Indonesia"?
 
Wouldn't you and your family be killed by the Comunists without the protection 
of the US?
 


Satrio Arismunandar <satrioarismunandar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ya. Ratusan ribu orang dibantai di Indonesia pada 1966
atas restu dan data yang disuplai CIA kepada
Suharto....

Apa uang Amerika bisa mengganti nyawa ratusan ribu
(mungkin jutaan) orang Indonesia? Apa nilai uang
dollar Amerika di atas segala-galanya....????

Sebagian besar dari apa yang disebut "bantuan" itu
sebetulnya pinjaman, yang harus dibayar lagi dengan
bunga..... (nggak usah basa-basi ah!)


--- Dick Channey <channey2004@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> It is indeed typical Indonesian behaviour:  we were
> and are happy having got the assistance and supports
> from the United States, since 1945. At the same time
> we keep telling, the Americans are bandits...
>  
> Who has educated and trained most of our elites?
> Mujaheeddin? Talibans? Palestinians? the Hamas? 
>  
> Who bought and is buying Indonesian's oil? Egypt?
> Afganistan? Palestine?
>  
> What has Indonesia performed to linger the fate of
> the so many poor nations in the world?  Talking and
> talking and talking..
>  
> 
> 
> amartien <amartien@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> "gimana juga dengan kelakuan amerika yg suka
> mengulingkan pemerintahan yg sah dipilih rakyat
> seperti yg terjadi di amerika latin."  
> 
> Dasar dari pada pendapat ini apa?
> 
> "Mungkin karena rasa bersalahnya amerika juga perlu
> bagi-bagi dikit harta jarahannya."    
> 
> Contoh Amrik menjarah?.  
> 
> contoh menjarah:
> 
> Waktu Irak nya Saddam Hussein menduduki Kuwait,
> kekayaan kuwait di jarah baik oleh pemerintahan
> Saddam maupun oleh tentaranya.  Uang di bank di
> habiskan, isi dari pada museum pun di bawa ke Irak. 
> Bukan itu saja, waktu mereka di halau keluar dari
> irak oleh tentara koalisi, mereka sengaja membakar
> ladang2 minyak yang bukan saja merugikan Kuwait
> tetapi juga mempunyai dampak yang sangat negatif
> terhadap lingkungan.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Fri 09/03, RG Nur Rahmat <
> garnizoon70@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
> From: RG Nur Rahmat [mailto: garnizoon70@xxxxxxxxx]
> To: ppiindia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 22:07:44 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: RE: [ppiindia] Bantuan Amerika
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