[pov] Re: Photo Grump's dinosaur

  • From: Rondi Lightmark <lightmark1@xxxxxxx>
  • To: pov@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:03:34 -0800

Apologies for being the cause--but check it out anyway. I think there are both grumps and dinosaurs on 

the roster!

: - ))



On Nov 17, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Randy Green wrote:


Oh. So it’s NOT an acronym.

;)

I’m not illiterate. Just confused.

PG

On Nov 17, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Terry Donnelly wrote:


Thanks PG,

I guess our text language has it’s problems

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From: pov-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pov-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Randy Green 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 2:39 PM
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Subject: [pov] Re: Photo Grump's dinosaur

I’m sorry. Who is TED? And does he talk well?

PG

On Nov 17, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Rondi Lightmark wrote:
Love this discussion. And then, I think of a TED talk, so many of which combine word and image, a modern imaginative 
storytelling.
Certainly a positive contribution to the modern art of storytelling, isn't it? 


On Nov 17, 2011, at 2:20 PM, James Culbertson wrote:
The alphabet effect (oral to written) has been going on since 500 BCE or thereabouts in the "west" (starting primarily in Greece). The advent of the printing press just accelerated the process.
Some argue that the internet gives us back much of the negative aspects of oral tradition without much of the benefits. A sort of fear-based neo-tribalism, where many retreat into mutually reinforcing ahistorical like-minded groups. As Randy mentions, increasing literary illiteracy without returning us to any kind of substantive oral literacy. This particular combo seems to me to be particularly toxic to the kind of cultural memory necessary for critical thinking and a healthy body politic. 

James


On Nov 17, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Terry Donnelly wrote:


Because we have a text based language


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From: pov-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pov-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rondi Lightmark 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:41 PM
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Subject: [pov] Re: Photo Grump's dinosaur
Visually illiterate because we don't use our eyes anymore because our world is so abstracted? 

Sent from my iPad
On Nov 17, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Terry Donnelly <terry@donnelly- austin.com> wrote:
Thanks Photo Grump for the view of just how the Midwest looks these days ...or is that a visual metaphor for Photoshop.
Just watched the Peter Greenaway documentary “Rembrandt’s J’Accuse” – Rick Dahms recommended it. Greenaway makes the point that we have become visually illiterate over the past few centuries even though we are awash in images. Interesting. 

Cheers,

Terry
From: pov-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pov-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Randy Green 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 5:41 PM
To: pov@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pov] Re: Fwd: The Most Popular Photographic Post Production Software [POLL RESULTS] 

I am vindicated:

Annie Liebovitz recommends iPhone as "snapshot camera of today”

R_

On Nov 15, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Randy Green wrote:

The iLeica (iPhone 4S).

Think I’ll sell all my other gear.

Who needs it?

-- Photo Grump


On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Terry Donnelly wrote:

Who Cares??  What’s your favorite f-stop?

Show me images! What are you working on lately?

Cheers,

Terry

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From: pov-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pov-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Randy Green 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:24 AM
To: pov@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pov] Re: Fwd: The Most Popular Photographic Post Production Software [POLL RESULTS]
Might have something to do with Photoshop being way over- engineered. What other popular software out there requires the user to search the screen for a teeny, 3 pixel, non-intuitive symbol or icon to display an important but confusing menu, all just to do what should be a common function? Photoshop is a dinosaur at the beginning of the Age of Mammals. 

hmm, I must have a strong opinion on this...

Randy

On Nov 15, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Michael Elenko wrote:
Very interesting, this poll of 22,000 respondents shows that Lightroom is the most popular post-production application with 32% followed by Photoshop at 21%.
http://www.digital-photography-school.com/the-most-popular-post- production-software-poll-results 


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