Bob: The most popular benchmark is 3dMark2001. You can get it from www.madonion.com and it allows you to compare you score against others with the same (or different) hardware. Of course, some people overclock the shit out of their hardware so there will always be people with scores incredibly higher than yours. I usually look for an average. Crashes are usually attributed to the AGP GART but you said you got the latest from VIA so that is probably not the case. I too was getting lookups (even with my GF2) but it seems to be much better now that I have upgraded my power supply. You can try buying a power supply from BestBuy or something and the return it if it doesn't help. I also had troubles when I had my USB devices hooked up at the same time (for whatever reason) so try unplugging all of your hardware. If you are having problems with nVidia's 40.41 drivers, try backing off one version. I believe that if you go through the normal download link and do NOT select the Detonator 40 option, you should be able to get the latest non-beta drivers. Finally, you can check out eVGA.com (I believe that is the card Shannon ordered?) .. they have decent customer support. For Quake III to show your FPS, pull down the console (~) and issues this command: seta cg_drawFPS "1" The seta will make it sticky and save it to the config file (I think). If that doesn't work, try this: cg_drawFPS "1" ... i.e. without the seta BTW, here is what you should look for in a power supply: - A name brand (like Antec, Enlight, Enermax, etc ...) - At LEAST at 350W supply now that you have a GF4. This will also leave room for a better CPU and RAM. - The 5V line should supply around 30A - The 3.3v line should supply around 20A (look at your's, I'll bet it says 14A) - The GFX card uses the 3.3v line so this is important - The total combined output (TCO) for the 3.3v and 5v rails should be at least 220w (yours is probably much less) - My model is an Antec SL350 and seems to be doing well J ----- Original Message ----- Jason, I've installed the GeForce4. It seems to work ok except i occasionally get lock-ups. I installed the latest nVidia driver and via driver for my motherboard. Maybe there are some bios changes i need to make. Besides just looking at it, do you know of any good benchmark software that i can use to see how much faster it is. How can i tell how many fps Quake III is running at? Bob ---- To unsubscribe: Send an e-mail to pittsburghquake-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of unsubscribe Visit the website: http://pittsburgh.servequake.com To view the discussion list archives, please visit //www.freelists.org/archives/pittsburghquake