-=PCTechTalk=- Re: weird

I AM clueless in most all of this question stuff..it looks like greek to 
me..
Yep all systems are different..I have teatimer activated and it DOES slow 
things down.  About the same as MS did..
Will go have a look at possibilities.....I will buy if it works well and 
does better than freebies but not because it's buyable.
thanks
ML
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Davisunit" <davist@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:30 AM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: weird


I've never noticed MS Antispyware slowing things down after installing
it on multiple machines, but we see different things happen with our
different setups.  The program popups are important so you can teach it
what is good/bad (very much like interacting with a firewall softare).
It doesn't know everything.  They usually have options to temporarily
enable/disable if you are absolutely clueless about the information it's
giving you, but best to educate yourself on each one so you can make an
informed decision.  Protecting yourself is a sad reality of modern
internet use.
If you're looking to buy a program, you might find this review
interesting http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,119572,00.asp
and I'd recommend searching for other reviews (more heads are better
than one) just to get a good feel for what is actually good.

Terry

 milady wrote:

>Thanks for all your info. DO appreciate. I have XP. Two things I noticed
>about MS were I didn't understand the popups..what they weresaying made no
>sense asking me to ok or not stuff I had no idea whether was yes or no. so
>THAT stumped me. ..and it slowed my system WAY down.... I HAVE counterspy
>downloaded but I have to pay for it before I can use it..which I don't mind
>but wonder if it's any better than MS...and worth paying.  It confused me
>too but then I often have trouble with comprehension...  hmmmmm. still
>struggling.
>ML
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Davisunit" <davist@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 6:43 AM
>Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: weird
>
>
>milady wrote:
>
>
>
>>OK,,NOW I gotta problem??? How do I know if things do or don't need
>>changing? AND do I have to set this teatimer situation? or is it self set.
>>I
>>don't know what to look for in the help section..I NEVER ask the right
>>question or know what to look for... sighhhhhhhhh phhhht...
>>ML
>>
>>
>>
>>
>Sometimes it's difficult to know WHAT things you do or don't need.  Some
>are obvious - like if you are installing software, there is often
>changes made to the registry, and the info onscreen in Tea Timer will
>give you a clue. When it's not so obvious, you'll have to do a little
>research - using Google, this mailing list, etc.  Tea Timer is not self
>set, you have to manually enable it within Spybot menu : Mode/Advanced,
>click Tools on the bottom/left, then Resident on the left, then the
>checkbox to the right "Resident TeaTimer (Protection of over-all system
>settings) active".  You will then see a new icon in the tray.
>The latest version of TeaTimer has a video glitch with its' poupup
>buttons, so you may find MS Antispyware a better (also free) option at
>the moment, and it's also more user friendly than TeaTimer, but not sure
>if it's compatible with Win9x/Me.
>
>Terry
>
>
>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "~OoO~" <sirtroth@xxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:56 PM
>>Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: weird
>>
>>
>>Yes... monitors for stuff trying to make changes to your config files.
>>
>>---Troth
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of milady
>>Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 3:47 PM
>>To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: weird
>>
>>Is that what teatimer is about--activemonitoring?...
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Davisunit" <davist@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:43 PM
>>Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: weird
>>
>>
>>One note about Adwatch - it's only available in the paid version,
>>whereas Tea Timer is free.
>>
>>Terry
>>
>>~OoO~ wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>The pay and free version of ZoneAlarm aren't really that different. The
>>>actual firewall is the same thing, just the pay version packs in a few
>>>extra
>>>features that most people don't use anyways.
>>>
>>>If you want just two antispyware apps, I would use Ad-Aware and Spybot, 
>>>as
>>>these are the most common (although not necessarily the better ones). For
>>>myself, I like these two best. Ad-Aware is RE-active, meaning it cleans 
>>>up
>>>the mess after you have it. But, it includes ADWATCH which is PRO-active,
>>>meaning it supposed to work to prevent infections in the first place. 
>>>Same
>>>thing with Spybot. On face value, its RE-active, but its got a background
>>>app (I think called Tea Timer, or something like that) that runs in the
>>>background to prevent infections.
>>>
>>>---Troth
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>[mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of milady
>>>Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:59 PM
>>>To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: weird
>>>
>>>I now have Ad-aware, spybot, A2square, spywareblaster and my ISPspyware
>>>scanner--bit of overkill I think...and none of the manual run pick up the
>>>same thing.   I would like two but picking WHICH to is  mind
>>>boggling...it's
>>>
>>>almost enough to drive a person to drunk or foreget the whole 
>>>thang!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>I too have Norton..just recently updated to a new version..AND Zonealarm
>>>but
>>>
>>>mine is the free version.
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "~OoO~" <sirtroth@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 6:25 AM
>>>Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: weird
>>>
>>>
>>>Which is the reason you don't only use one antispyware app.
>>>:o)
>>>
>>>---Troth
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>[mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don
>>>Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:54 AM
>>>To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: weird
>>>
>>>Please be aware that the adware/spyware made by Claria (GATOR to those
>>>that
>>>have been around a while) and now owned by Microsoft has been downgraded
>>>by
>>>MS AntiSpyware.  It used to be found and suggested to be deleted.  Now it
>>>is
>>>
>>>simply ignored.
>>>
>>>And now, its time for that ever popular TV show... Who Do you Trust?
>>>
>>>Google on Claria for about a million hits... the first few should have
>>>stories on this.
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "~OoO~" <sirtroth@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:59 AM
>>>Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: weird
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>For myself...
>>>>
>>>>I run Ad-Aware, Spybot, SpywareBlaser once a week.
>>>>
>>>>Microsoft AntiSpyware (only recently added to the mix) is always running
>>>>=
>>>>in the background, and does an auto scan every night at approximately =
>>>>3:00am (set to automatically do it), as well as auto-update daily.
>>>>
>>>>Norton AntiVirus is my antivirus app which is always running in the =
>>>>background, and updates itself automatically daily. Full scans I don't =
>>>>do on an auto-schedule, but on occasion when I have nothing better to do
>>>>=
>>>>I will run a full scan self-initiated.
>>>>
>>>>I run ZoneAlarm for my firewall needs, but I also have a D-Link router =
>>>>which provides some basic hardware firewall protection as well.
>>>>
>>>>All this... PLUS... Scandisk runs automatically every night, to =
>>>>hopefully isolate any drive errors, and defrag I do myself about once a 
>>>>=
>>>>month (should be much more frequent, however, as I have a lot of files =
>>>>that are always being shifted from point to point).
>>>>
>>>>____________________________________
>>>>Sir Troth
>>>>ICQ #1717439
>>>>AIM/AOL: SirTrothX
>>>>Yahoo: SirTroth
>>>>MSN: SirTroth@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>     (do not email me here)
>>>>My Personal Email: SirTroth@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>--------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>=20
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
>>>>[mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of milady
>>>>Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:46 AM
>>>>To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: -=3DPCTechTalk=3D- Re: weird
>>>>
>>>>I got all that stuff stored .  I just refuse to run a dozen of these=20
>>>>programs..but one sure doesn't begin to seem close to good =
>>>>enough..question=20
>>>>IS which SEVERAL??? Gets OLD trying to figure out..
>>>>ml
>>>>----- Original Message -----=20
>>>>From: "~OoO~" <sirtroth@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:58 PM
>>>>Subject: -=3DPCTechTalk=3D- Re: weird
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You'll just never know that your system is 100% clean. You just run what
>>>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>>you can and try to be as safe as possible. As an example, my second =3D
>>>>system that runs a server has all the popular adware/spyware apps, plus 
>>>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>>a hardware AND software firewall, plus the standard antivirus app, and =
>>>>=3D
>>>>these would all scan on schedule weekly, not to mention ongoing =3D
>>>>real-time scanning... and just today I find out that some virus =3D
>>>>(most-likely a virus) wiped out about 75% of all my EXE files on that =
>>>>=3D
>>>>machine. Devastating for the server since that's the stuff being served,
>>>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>>know what I mean?
>>>>
>>>>I thought it was all safe and good... only to be surprised. So... you'll
>>>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>>never be 100% safe, EVEN WHEN YOU THINK YOU ARE! Just keep the precious 
>>>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>>items safe... digital photos, home videos, etc. You get the drift.
>>>>
>>>>____________________________________
>>>>Sir Troth
>>>>ICQ #1717439
>>>>AIM/AOL: SirTrothX
>>>>Yahoo: SirTroth
>>>>MSN: SirTroth@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>     (do not email me here)
>>>>My Personal Email: SirTroth@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>--------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>=3D20
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
>>>>[mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of milady
>>>>Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 11:51 PM
>>>>To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: -=3D3DPCTechTalk=3D3D- Re: weird
>>>>
>>>>Which does seem like a tremendous hassle..you could run umpteen of these
>>>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>>
>>>>programs and neverknow REALLY if you were getting all of the nasty =3D
>>>>stuff.=3D20
>>>>sighhhhh.
>>>>
>>>>I ran up against a thing that starts out something like CRPKIE---.=3D20
>>>>something. It lands in registry and windows. I have removed it before =
>>>>=3D
>>>>but=3D20
>>>>can't remember the full name..one of the programs half named it but =3D
>>>>wouldn't=3D20
>>>>allow total access to the name or location.  I googled it before..but =
>>>>I=3D20
>>>>can't remember the full name??does it look familiar? Does anyone know =
>>>>=3D
>>>>the=3D20
>>>>full name????
>>>>----- Original Message -----=3D20
>>>>From: "Mike" <mikebike@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:44 PM
>>>>Subject: -=3D3DPCTechTalk=3D3D- Re: weird
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi Milady,
>>>>different program have different views on what is spyware.
>>>>some consider Microsoft spyware<G>
>>>>
>>>>Some spyware can change its name each time it is deleted, and continue =
>>>>=3D
>>>>to=3D3D
>>>>reproduce itself mutable times.
>>>>
>>>>The most effective way to eliminate spyware is to run the programs in =
>>>>=3D
>>>>Safe=3D3D
>>>>Mode.
>>>>
>>>>It may be necessary to disable System Restore if you are using Windows =
>>>>=3D
>>>>XP=3D3D
>>>>or ME.
>>>>
>>>>Mike the mod
>>>>******* Mike's  REPLY SEPARATOR *********
>>>>
>>>>On 7/24/2005 at 7:09 PM milady wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I am finding it rather strange that having 3 spyware programs, they all
>>>>come up with something different. and I did a 4th online scan which =3D
>>>>didn't
>>>>find any of those but came up with another and none of the 3 came up =3D
>>>>with
>>>>what the 4th did...sighhhhhh????Which leaves yah wondering.  HOW is this
>>>>suppose to work? Geeez
>>>>ML
>>>>

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