If you are going to a free site, then you should expect to see them. It's your choice whether to block them or not or to not visit the site at all. The question was whether sites need popups to work and many don't - except for annoying advertising. If it were only banner ads, I can ignore them. If it were a single popup ad, I wouldn't like it, but I could X it as you say. We all know that this is not how it works anymore. They chain the popups so that there are dozens of them and closing a popup only spawns more. Ads that involve redirect codes are the worst. I don't want to be sent from my computer site to a porn site or dating site or anything else I'm not interested in and *I* want to decide *what* I'm interested in. Don't call me, I'll call you. There is absolutely no reason at all to imbed adserver url's or tracking cookies into the operating system. On some sites you can click the ole X and still see ads from that site indirectly forever thanks to some nifty registry work. I personally block my own and it is getting harder all the time. Some people don't know how to do that or aren't willing to "miss" anything. I set up my system to block at a certain level, then if a site won't load or work right, I back off the security just enough to make it work -site specific, not globally - until it either works or I decide it's not worth the level of risk. Others don't want to take the time or learn how, but they feel the same way. This is where ISP blocking comes into play. They have the means and the customers *want* the service and it helps manage their costs. I have no problem with ad sponsored websites. They can plaster their site with whatever they want and I'll view it or not view it accordingly. I do have a problem with a web site bombarding me with ads and then dragging all their scum buddies from unrelated sites I haven't even visited (nor even want to visit) into my computer. It's wrong and it has forced me to shun sites I might have otherwise visited and their ads will never be seen no matter what they do. It's not the ISP's that are to blame for the blocking, folks. They're trying to provide a service at a reasonable profit with a defined overhead. It's the marketeers. They're trying to make outrageous easy money and shove their overhead onto everyone but themselves. If any one of the worst ones ever had to run a face to face business, they'd be run out of town on a rail. On 6/16/2003 at 9:35 PM a whisper was heard, and the one known as andy was rumoured to have uttered.... | It's not the Spam I want to see, but if I want to see a page, | I don't expect | to see it blocked by my ISP just because it has pop ups. I | have some | webspace (free) which opens up 2 windows and, occasionally, a | download for | Gator-a quick click on the 'X' is a small price to pay for | 100mb of free | space for me, and the information my site offers to the people | that visit it | | Andy | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Wyatt M. Portendt" <nunyabidness6@xxxxxxxxx> | To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 8:42 PM | Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: popup killer program | | | > Most ISP's that do this do it as a service to their | customers and most | > allow you to set the criteria or override it for ********* And So It Was *********** To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk