-=PCTechTalk=- Re: help w/recording from cassette player to computer pls
- From: "cristy" <poppy0206@xxxxxxx>
- To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:46:53 -0400
Gman,
Before I read this reply of yours, I was able to burn to a CD-R disc and had
success playing it on my stand alone CD player but with CD-R's I think I
cannot add songs later on so that is not ideal.
It looks like my goldwave program has some effects features but I have not
played with them yet. It sounds like I should try audacity though and will
try all of this after dinnertime shortly. Do you have al link to the direct
download?
I have been wanting to open up this can of worms for a long time now and I
guess it is as good a time as any as school lets out soon.
Will be back shortly. I do "get" what you mean about the .bmp and .wav and
lossless and lossy and all though. And was wanting to just record the
entire cassette tape, not one song at a time and later splice and dice it.
thanks!
Christine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gman" <gman.pctt@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 5:39 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: help w/recording from cassette player to
computer pls
> Cristy,
> This is in reply to both of your posts. Set the Sound Schemes in
> Control Panel to "No Sounds" to eliminate those sounds from your
> recordings
> and mute your microphone, too.
>
> You're opening up a very LARGE can of worms here. The stuff that can
> be
> done with audio (& video) are enough to fill an encyclopedia's worth of
> volumes. So, let's take this one step at a time.
>
> First up is getting them onto your hard drive. You've already learned
> at least one way to do that using apps you already have on your system.
> Still, it's best that you really understand the difference between some of
> the formats that can be used. WAV is to audio what BMP is to images.
> That
> is, both are not compressed at all and every bit of data that could be
> read
> from the original is included in the file. MP3, on the other hand, is a
> compression scheme that tosses out certain types of data that the MP3
> algorithm deems unnecessary. Since some of the original data is lost
> forever, MP3 is considered a "Lossy" format. Of course, the loss of this
> data results in an MP3 file that is only about 10% of the size of the
> original. There are other popular and not so popular formats that can be
> used as well and some of them are "Lossless", which means that all of the
> original data remains intact. However, that is a discussion for another
> time. The main point of this paragraph is that you want to keep your
> audio
> in WAV (or some other 'lossless') format throughout the entire time you're
> working with (ripping, editing, burning) these files. Once you have the
> tunes on CD (without pops and cracks), you can THEN make MP3's out of them
> to keep on your hard drive (for listening while you work on other things).
> Of course, you could also convert them to any other format (including
> 'lossless' ones) that your favorite player supports (again, further info
> on
> this idea warrants a separate discussion). If all of that makes sense,
> you're ready to begin your journey towards becoming a pro.
>
> Once the WAV files are on your hard drive, you should spend some time
> editing them. This means you'll need a good editing program (there are
> many
> of them and one of the best is the open source "Audacity") and you'll need
> to spend some time learning how to best use it. Since you don't want to
> ruin a perfectly good rip, locate one of your ripped files and make a copy
> of it first. You can then experiment with the copy without fear of
> harming
> the original. These apps can help you easily break up an entire cassette
> tape's contents into individual songs, remove empty space at the beginning
> and end of each song (leave a small gap of between 1-2 seconds so songs
> don't run into each other later on the CD), remove tape hiss & other
> background noise, etc.. It will take some time to master the editing
> controls, but this time is WELL worth the results you'll get on the CDs
> you
> make.
>
> After your tunes are 'mastered', they will be ready for burning onto
> whatever optical medium your players support. It won't matter for playing
> them on the computer, but it will matter to standalone players. Another
> thing to keep in mind is that there are fundamental differences between
> commercial disks (these are stamped by machine), CD-R (these are made by
> melting different areas of a thin metal foil) and CD-RWs (similar to CD-R,
> but with a different type of metal foil that can be remelted to hold
> different data numerous times). Many older players don't support burned
> disks (the pits and hills are not as deep or tall on burned medium), while
> some support most CD-Rs, but not CD-RWs. It already sounds like your
> player
> doesn't like the CD-RW disks you're using. It MIGHT work with a different
> brand, but I'd hate to recommend something only to find out later that it
> was a waste of your money. A regular CD-R also might work, but the
> ability
> varies depending on brand of both player (and possibly the quality of the
> disks themselves). You'll probably want to have a separate discussion on
> ways to get around this limitation, too. I have thoughts to share, but
> will
> only bring them to your attention if you're actually interested in
> perusing
> them. I'm looking out for my fingers here. lol
>
> I'll let you digest what I've already included here and then let your
> questions guide the next part of this discussion. :O)
>
> Peace,
> G
>
> "The only dumb questions are the ones that are never asked"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "cristy" <poppy0206@xxxxxxx>
> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:40 PM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: help w/recording from cassette player to
> computer pls
>
>
>> HI Gman,
>>
>> I was able to figure it out before I read your email but do have some
>> questions. I made a recording of one of my songs that was on my cassette
>> tape onto my hard drive.
>>
>> I had figured out where to put the red and white plugs and the 1/8" one
>> into
>> the sound card line in. I used my Goldwave program I already had on the
>> computer to record. This created a .wav file. It played back fine, I
>> had
>> my headset on listening as it was recording and playing back. I played
>> around with the volume setting on the "line in" in my controls to see if
>> that made a difference too. I then named and saved it. I then opened my
>> razor lame program and encolded it to an mp3 file and burned it to a CD
>> using the windows media player I think. It recorded to the CD-RW disk
>> but
>> saved as a cda file (was it supposed to?). Anyhow it would play back on
>> my
>> computer (the cda file on the disk) but had background pops and noises.
>> It
>> would not however play back on my CD player that is separate from my
>> computer even though it is supposed to play CD-RW disks. But it says it
>> wont play computer disks or mp3's so I am confused. How do I get it to
>> play
>> back on a CD player separate from my computer and how do I rid of the
>> background noise. I just now did mute the mic like you said. On the
>> control panel, I went under sounds, and audio sounds and the sound scheme
>> was just set on a blank space nothing written there, the drop down
>> offered
>> no sounds and default. Should I choose the "no sounds"?
>>
>> Thanks for any tips. I would like to be able to play them on CD players,
>> once successful at that I want to play with some digital enhancement to
>> try
>> to improve the quality as most of these were recorded when I was singing
>> live in bands in clubs and we used an old tapeplayer boom box type thing,
>> may not be much I can do with that!
>
>
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