In a message dated 12/31/03 8:50:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, inquisitive@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=8600SAP&cs=19&; > dgvcode=ss&c=US&l=EN > > the above link is the dell I was considering - so what I'm trying to do is > compare these 3 for a start: > > 1 - the e-bay and Sagertown (not the most expensive one but the $1945 one) > are faster as both have the Pentium 4 hyperthread while Dell only has > Pentium M - then Dell has 1.5GHz, the Sager and e-bay one both have 3.0GHz > 2 - Dell comes with WXGA (can be upgraded), Sager has UXGA and e-bay has > SXGA > 3 - all 3 have the XP Home Edition which is all I want > 4 - all 3 have 512 ram of memory > 5 - since I don'tunderstand or see I can't compare the video cards as only > Dell lists a name > 6 - Dell has a free CD/DVD burner, other two look like only have CD burner > and DVD player > 7 - Dell and e-bay have 40 gig hard drive and Sager 60 > 8 - e-bay has an internal battery - is that good, bad or indifferent as > opposed to the other 2? > 9 - Dell has integrated network card and wireless card - unless I'm missing > other two don't have this > > okay that's what I can see to compare - then Dell doesn't mention how many > if any USB ports while the other two ahve 4, Sager has a carrying case but > who knows what size > the price differences are from $1349 (after rebate) from Dell, e-bay $1599 > and Sager $1999 > there isn't that much difference between the Dell and the e-bay one but not > sure the Sager would be worth an extra $600 for me. I wish the Dell site > was clearer on how many if any USB ports it has as that sounds like an > important factor - does all that sound like I covered everything to make my > decision? Dolores > ----- Original Message Dolores Do you plan to have your new computer be the hub of an entertainment system more than use as a computer? Do you plan on producing DVDs? If not, why would you need a DVD burner? Here are the specs for the Sager Notebook NP5680S .... 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