-=PCTechTalk=- Re: Windows XP Pro OEM vs. Retail? TOM
- From: "BashfulBob" <BashfulBob@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:39:44 -0600
HI Tom
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----- Original Message -----
From: "T. Hunt" <ilrover@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 10:35 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Windows XP Pro OEM vs. Retail?
> Bob-
> The OEM operating system is called an OEM because of its license, not
> because it differs from a Retail version. OEM licenses can be sold by
> anyone who purchases the software legally. If you are an authorized
> Microsoft Reseller, you can purchase the licenses in bulk without having to
> purchase hardware. If you're NOT an authorized reseller, you must purchase
> the XP license with hardware. It is assumed that the OEM license will be
> installed on a machine that incorporates the purchased hardware. Once that
> is done, the OS cannot be moved to another machine or resold to another
> person, except that it is sold as part of a "system"; that "system" being
> the original hardware and the software installed thereon. IOW, once the XP
> operating system is installed on a particular machine, it becomes part of
> that machine and the two, software and hardware, become one; a "system"
> that cannot be separated, ever. If the machine dies, you have to buy a new
> license for the Windows XP.
>
> A Retail version of the same operating system, ie Windows XP, is NOT
> required to be sold to Authorized Microsoft Resellers or be sold with
> hardware. It can be sold in retail outlets to anyone as a stand-alone
> product. It can be installed on a machine and then removed and installed
> on another machine. It is NOT tied in any way to any hardware.
RESPONSE
I have reviewed my messages on this subject and have failed to find one that I
said the Retail version was required to be sold to authorized Microsoft
Resellers, So I am at a loss where you saw that statement, not did I see where
I said the retail version was tied to any hardware. I did say something to the
effect that in the past, (NOT XP) that MS stopped sales on eBay for their OEM
OS's because it was required to be sold with a machine and/or certain parts,
for example, the HD constituted the machine. I have purchased OEM that way and
MS permitted the sales that way on eBay. So I am at a complete loss how you
arrived at this. Did I miss reviewing a message of mine?
>
> The support options are also different. OEM versions are supported by the
> people who sell the complete machine with XP installed or by the person or
> company that sells the software/hardware bundle. Sometimes these
> people/companies provide poor or non-existent support. That is their
> right, as far as Microsoft is concerned. The only stipulation with OEM
> versions is that Microsoft does NOT provide any support.
>
> Microsoft DOES provide support for the Retail versions of XP. If you have
> questions about how XP works, errors, crashes, problems, etc. and you
> purchased a Retail version, instructions for calling Microsoft will be
> included.
RESPONSE
Again I do not see in my review of my messages where I stated that MS does NOT
support their retail products.
>
> Microsoft provides patches, updates and fixes for XP, regardless of the
> version, OEM or retail.
RESPONSE
Again, I don't see where I stated anything about MS NOT providing patches,
updates and fixes for XP or any of their products, OEM or not.
>
> Computers from companies like HP, Dell and eMachines with restore CD's use
> a highly customized version of the OEM software. But the operating system
> still contains everything that comes in the retail version. The larger
> companies brand the components, like the desktop background and the IE
> browser and litter the desktop with icons. They may also bundle other
> software with the system, but they cannot delete anything in XP from the
> start. They may not install certain components but they're still available
> if you know where to look.
RESPONSE
Again I did not say they could delete anything in XP. They can contract with MS
or vica versa for it to be particular to their needs. Also I do not recall
addressing the OS components.
>
> And it doesn't matter whether you agree with me or not. All this
> information is available at www.microsoft.com.
>
> And you might do a little reading up on WPA. Many of the points you raise
> in your 1st paragraph are addressed in any discussion of WPA. However, as
> regards "asking around", don't waste your time. Go to the above website
> and read what they say. Since its Microsoft's website, they probably know
> best.
RESPONSE
Well I am still trying to figure out what WPA stands for.
In any event, I apologize for pressing your buttons, that was not my intention.
This thread seems to be taking on a very personal attitude. It seems to me that
you got a tad upset in your reply and therefore I will state that I will be
happy to continue the discussion of this thread with you off line. I will not
respond to you further on this matter in this forum. Please feel free to email
me directly if you feel the NEED to continue this discussion. In any event,
relax and have a good day.
>
> HTH Tom
>
> At 02:40 PM 1/19/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>
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