I'm currently using the 3-user version of AVG Security Suite. When Computer Associates finally makes a 64-bit version of their suite available from my ISP (Roadrunner) I will likely go back to it. www.ncix.ca is a broken link right now. I'll look again later. I don't think I have ever seen Windows Defender pop up with any warnings. Maybe I'm just a good internet user or AVG is catching every thing first. Don Mike the mod wrote: > Hi Don, > I often add Zone Alarm free as well to computers I fix up. > > On my own I use/trust the Eset Security Suite. > I bought the 3 computer 3 year licence 2 years ago and > have never had an infection. > > It will not allow a download of anything is suspects is > malicious. > The other day there was a free download of Nero 9 > I could not complete the download as it had the > Ask Toobar Trojan bundled with it. > > This computer my Vista Home Pro made for me by > www.ncix.ca has Windows Defender on it but it > has never done anything other than asking if I wish to > notify MS of a trusted application install. > > I have been recommending Avira formerly H&Bev antivir > for around 8 years it is one of the best AV programs > I have found. > > Cheers > Mike the mod > ******* REPLY SEPARATOR ********* > > On 8/7/2009 at 8:13 PM recklessmaverick@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > My XP Pro SP1a disk was the same PITA until I tried installing it on a > new computer. Then it installed like a champ. Apparently a new system > starts the # of installs count over again. > > Your idea sounds better. I'm thinking clean install, security software > install, update. Install ATI and other software (including portable > software) and update it all. Configure software as desired for email, > internet etc. Run a last update on Windows and Security software. > Create a Bootable ATI USB drive using BartPE. Use ATI to create an > image and store it on the same USB drive. I would also include various > install files or portable versions of maintenance and diagnostic > software I did want to put in the image. > > Mine method might take a 16GB thumbdrive but I have four of them laying > around doing nothing right now. I might also use EasyBCD to create a > backup of the MBR and keep it on the drive also. > > Have you found AviraAV and MalWareBytes to be adequate protection? Do > you also use Windows Defender or other stuff also? > > Don > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. To subscribe, unsubscribe or modify your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk OR To subscribe to the mailing list, send an email to pctechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject. To unsubscribe send email to pctechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject. To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ To contact only the PCTT Mod Squad, write to: pctechtalk-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To join our separate PCTableTalk off-topic group, send a blank email to: pctabletalk+subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------