-=PCTechTalk=- Re: Riven CD question

O M G!! You have them? I was beginning to think I was the only person left 
who was still wanting to experience them. I have always been extremely 
cautious in cleaning my CDs, even from the very first days of computing. I 
even bought special lint free CD cleaning clothes. This is scratch/flaw is 
perfectly embedded or whatever, I suspect that there must have been 
something on it or maybe on the CD tray that did this. Or a 
grandson...heheh.

   I am on cable modem so I don't care how big a file is, but you 
might...since this is *334 MBs*. The file I am missing is:
1_Data2.MHK

   It is on Disk 3 in the Data folder. There are two files in that folder. I 
was able to copy the first one with no problem.

Even though I had grown up with 78 rpm records, (yes I am older than dirt!) 
I was aware of the wipe from the center out when cleaning CDs. And since I 
had to work to buy them...I was really careful!

Thank you so much Gman, I am not sure with the size of the file I need that 
we'll be able to do it, but I certainly appreciate the offer!

Sammi


Gman wrote:
> Sammi,
>    A scratch going around a disk usually indicates that the disks are
> being
> cleaned improperly.  With nearly ALL data storage media, the bits are
> stored
> and read by writing/reading around the disk, very similar to a vinyl
> LP
> album.  Optical disks are one of the few that can, and sometimes
> should, be
> cleaned.  But the only method that should be used is to wipe form the
> center
> hole to the edge, perpendicular to the path of the stored data.  If
> cleaning
> happens to produce a scratch, it will only affect a tiny bit of the
> stored
> bits and the drive can usually figure out what they are.  If it finds
> a
> scratch running across a long length of a bit path, this recovery will
> become impossible.  So, always wipe from center to outer edge when
> cleaning
> and be sure to use a VERY clean, scratch free cloth.  If you wash the
> disk,
> use lukewarm water and a mild detergent like Ivory along with that
> cloth.
> As long as you don't have calluses, you might be able to get away with
> gently using your finger to wipe away any gunk when washing them, but
> again,
> only wipe across the disk, never around it.
>
>    You're in luck, m'dear.  I have all of the original MYST games
> right
> here (but no special editions).  Tell me the name of the bad file and
> I'll
> send it to you.  Of course, this only works because you have that
> method of
> copying the files to your hard drive and running it from there.  If
> you
> couldn't do that, you MIGHT be able to get away with copying all but
> the bad
> file to the drive, adding the missing file that I'll send you and then
> reburning, but then again, many games have security that won't allow
> that,
> especially if it's the first disk in the set.
>
> Peace,
> G
>
> "The only dumb questions are the ones that are never asked"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sammi" <sammi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:29 PM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Riven CD question
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a game, Riven, which has one file that I cannot use or copy
>> from one
>> of the 5 CDs that make up the game. Is there away to copy this  file
>> from the CD that does not take an expensive ap to do it?
>>
>> First I tried gently cleaning it to make sure no 'smog' was keeping
>> it from
>> being read. But that did not help; nor did trying to copy it on
>> another pc.
>> I am only asking here as a last resort before figuring out how to
>> work a new
>> game into my limited budget. 8-}
>>
>> All of the other 4 CDs look to be in mint condition. Disk 3 has a
>> flaw or a
>> scratch (which cannot be felt) that runs almost all around the disk.
>> When you get to a certain place in the game, it freezes up
>> completely.
>>
>> Last week, after a dry spell of about 8 years, I was able to run my
>> old Myst
>> Masterpiece game on XP with little to no trouble. It ran much better
>> than it
>> did on W98. It was wonderful to 'visit' those remarkable images once
>> again.
>> I know I could purchase another Riven game, and most likely on DVD;
>> but having paid for this one, if it is possible, I would rather not
>> have to do that.
>>
>> Since I am actively retired, at last I have more time to fool around
>> with my
>> old pc games. I also came across a forum that explained how to run
>> the game
>> off the hard drive instead of swapping out the CDs, but you have to
>> be able
>> to copy the CDs to your hd dr. And there is just that one file on
>> Disk 3 which must be right smack on that flaw/scratch. It is the
>> only one I cannot
>> copy to my hd dr. And it is a big one...334 MBs, so I am pretty sure
>> I cannot find just that one file anywhere.
>>
>> Nor do I know of anyone locally who ever played it or who kept their
>> old games. If I did, I would borrow their Disk 3 and copy just that
>> file.
>>
>> TIA
>> Sammi 


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