-=PCTechTalk=- Re: OE versus the competition

  • From: "kg6ocz" <kg6ocz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:14:18 -0700

OK so WHAT are you using???
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wyatt M. Portendt" <nunyabidness6@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:17 AM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: OE versus the competition


> Virii are not the only thing that plagues Outlook and Outlook Express.
The
> addressbook is very vulnerable and that vulnerability alone passes a
> majority of trojans and worms around and around indefinitely.  Up until
> very recently, you could not read mail in anything but HTML.  Again, very
> vulnerable to worms and trojans, if not virii.  If you think that OE is
> secure with only virus protection, then you need to do some research,
> because a lot of trojan/malware victims would beg to differ.  While the
> mailing lists were plagued with a variety of trojans and worms that came
> imbedded in the HTML and sent themselves to every OE addressbook they
could
> find, they were stripped here automatically and couldn't get into *this*
> addressbook even if they hadn't been stripped.
>
> I know you think OE is great and I'm happy for you.  Let's not make it
> something it is not, though.  It's hasn't got the best filters and it is
> very far from the most secure email out there.
>
>
> On 6/17/2003 at 10:06 PM a whisper was heard, and the one known as Doug
was
> rumoured to have uttered....
>
>           |  That's a good point, but if you have good anti
>           |  vrus software, you don't get hit.
>           |  I've used OE for many years and never had a virus.
>           |
>           |  Doug.
>           |
>           |  Why do people say "meteoric rise?"  Meteors don't rise -- 
they
>           |  fall
>           |
>           |
>           |    ----- Original Message ----- 
>           |    From: The Keyboard Cowboy
>           |    To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>           |    Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 9:42 PM
>           |    Subject: -=3DPCTechTalk=3D- Re: OE versus the competition
>           |
>           |
>           |    Well written Wyatt.  I'd add the fact that OE & O are prone
>           |  to virus
>           |    attack simply because they are in such wide use.  Programs
>           |  like
>           |    TheBat and Poco run on their own code engines and therefore
>           |  are not
>           |    nearly as vulnerable to viruses.  Everyone chooses what
>           |  suits their
>           |    own tastes......but my Seal of Approval goes to Poco &
>           |  TheBat.
>           |     Regards from the
>           |    "Keyboard Cowboy",
>           |
>           |         ,,,,,,,,
>           |         =D4=BF=D4=AC
>           |      Cincinnati, Ohio
>           |    Scottsdale, Arizona
>           |    =AB:::=BB=A4=AB:::=BB=A4=A4=AB:::=BB=A4=AB:::=BB
>           |    Tuesday
>           |    06/17/2003
>           |    15:40:42 EST
>           |    =AB:::=BB=A4=AB:::=BB=A4=A4=AB:::=BB=A4=AB:::=BB
>           |
>           |    You can't change the past, but you can ruin the present by
>           |  worrying
>           |    over the future.
>           |
>           |
>           |
>
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>           |
>           |    =A4=A4=A4=A4=A4 On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:34:23 -0500
>           |    =A4=A4=A4=A4=A4 Wyatt M. Portendt wrote:
>           |    =A4
>           |    =A4 Core mail handling includes filtering that can be
>           |  configured to as
>           |    =A4 many different mail accounts as differently as you wish
> on
>           |  any
>           |    =A4 folder you wish with the option of using regular
>           |  expressions to
>           |    =A4 tweak it to its fullest. Right click and filter with
the
>           |  ability to
>           |    =A4 not even *see* messages you don't want by deleting them
>           |    =A4 - completely- between the server and your computer
> before
>           |  download.
>           |    =A4 Chaining of filters to keep the inbox clean of
> everything
>           |  you want
>           |    =A4 to see (friends, direct messages) and instant, flexible
>           |  sorting for
>           |    =A4 mail lists and such that works *always* and doesn't
miss
> or
>           |    =A4 misplace messages.  The ability to invoke some filters
> on
>           |  some
>           |    =A4 folders without having to do it globally.  The ability
> to
>           |  create a
>           |    =A4 filter and have it used at your discretion, not on
every
>           |  piece of
>           |    =A4 mail you get. There are others.
>           |    =A4
>           |    =A4 OE filters can be made to work, but they don't work
well
>           |  enough to
>           |    =A4 handle the types of tasks I wish to do.  There are
other
>           |  things,
>           |    =A4 but OE's major flaw from *my* perspective has always
> been
>           |  its
>           |    =A4 filters.  I can filter a message down to a single word
> if
>           |  I want
>           |    =A4 and will only get messages with *that exact word* *in
> the
>           |  exact
>           |    =A4 place I queried it* and no other matches. That's mail
>           |  handling.  If
>           |    =A4 you can do that in OE without a lot of effort, then
show
>           |  me how.
>           |    =A4 Not that I'd go back, I'm happy where I'm at, but just
> for
>           |  my
>           |    =A4 knowlege.
>           |    =A4
>           |    =A4 OE is a fine program for most people.  Some want more
or
> a
>           |    =A4 different way of handling things.  To say OE will do
>           |  anything that
>           |    =A4 the others do is not quite correct.  To say it will
work
>           |  in most
>           |    =A4 cases and work fine is not to be argued.  I can agree
to
>           |  disagree
>           |    =A4 and I'm not plugging anything else to anyone for whom
OE
>           |  works well
>           |    =A4 enough.
>           |    =A4
>           |    =A4
>           |    =A4
>           |    =A4 On 6/17/2003 at 8:27 PM a=A4
>           |    =A4 |  Not sure what core mail handling is, but Outlook |
>           |  express has
>           |    =A4 always had enough horsepower for my needs and I |
> suspect
>           |  many
>           |    =A4 others here as well. |  |    ----- Original Message
> ----- |
>           |    =A4 From: Wyatt M. Portendt |    To:
> pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx |
>           |    =A4 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:16 PM |    Subject:
>           |  -=3DPCTechTalk=3D-
>           |    =A4 Re: How to get messages you SEND |  into folders when
>           |  using OE |  |
>           |    =A4 |    I'm not knocking it, I've tried it and it doesn't
> do
>           |  enough |
>           |    =A4 in core mail |    handling for me My wife, kids and
>           |  friends use it,
>           |    =A4 but they |  aren't picky about where the |    mail
goes,
>           |  what is
>           |    =A4 dumped and how, and they'd rather have |  the fluff
than
> |
>           |     the
>           |    =A4 horsepower. |                                |  |    On
>           |  6/17/2003
>           |    =A4 at 10:13 AM aTechRose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx |              |
I
>           |  do think
>           |    =A4 this is a one time setup ..and in any |              |
>           |  other
>           |    =A4 program.. it would |              |  NOT be all that
>           |  different. |
>           |    =A4 |  |              |  You still have to 'setup' the
> filters
>           |  to |
>           |    =A4 work..and if you |              |  already had mail |
>           |    =A4 |  sent..and wanted to go back and filter |  them..you
>           |  would have |
>           |    =A4 |  extra steps that |              |  one time too. |
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