-=PCTechTalk=- Re: Need the Most Efficient & Effective for Viral Removal

For the most part, yes, but not 100%.  Both of their main functions is for
anti-malware, but Malwarebytes finds more malware than Spybot Search &
Destroy.  Malwarebytes does not have an equivalent to Spybot's Immunize or
Teatimer features, but although Immunize is helpful, it does give Windows a
lot more work to do in order to compare your browsers URL to the thousands
of entries Immunize puts in the hosts file.  Also, Teatimer tends to slow
your PC down more than other similar products like Winpatrol.  I'm glad Gman
recommended Winpatrol to me as I like it much better.  Another plus for
Malwarebytes is that Spybot does not have real-time protection (you have to
manually run a scan from time to time instead of always protecting in
real-time).  Well, Malwarebytes' free version isn't real-time, but the paid
version is.

Hopefully I didn't give too much info to confuse you.  To sum it up:  In my
opinion a combo of Malwarebytes and Winpatrol gives much better protection
and functionality than Spybot and they don't slow down your PC as much as
Spybot.


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From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of cristy
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:17 PM
To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Need the Most Efficient & Effective for Viral
Removal

Does this program do the same thing as spybot S & E?  The free version?

thanks,
christy
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From: "Disastar" <disastar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 3:16 AM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Need the Most Efficient & Effective for Viral 
Removal


I'm loving Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware more and more.  One tip is that it
removes more of the virus if you run it from safe-mode.  This laptop I'm
working on tonight could not fix registry entries because the virus disabled
regedit and after a reboot and re-scan it found many viruses again.  But in
safe-mode Malwarebytes just said it was enabling regedit then found a lot
more viruses and after a reboot and re-scan from safe mode again, it's
coming up clean.  Soon I'll reboot into normal log-in and re-scan overnight.

-----Original Message-----
From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gman
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:20 PM
To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Need the Most Efficient & Effective for Viral
Removal

Dan,
    What you seek does exist, but it's WAY too long to type out in an email
or post to a single web page.  The problem is that serious computer
infections can be almost like fingerprints in that no two are exactly alike.

    One of the obvious problems you're having is that you have Windows
installed to a large hard drive volume.  When it comes time to run a scan,
CHKDSK or defrag, it takes forever to complete, even though the offending
files (corrupted, fragmented or infected) might only add up to a single
megabyte or so.  You're much better off having your OS separated from your
storage (downloaded files, MP3 collection, etc.).  I have 3 XP installs on
only 15 - 20GB partitions and it's a breeze to run any type of scan on them.

I know this isn't really the time to be suggesting something like that to
you, but it'll give you food for thought for the future.

    Once infected, the system itself will help you determine the best course

of action.  To find out what I'm dealing with, I often turn first to
HijackThis so I can get a log of what's running and research anything that
seems out of place.  The more I work with these logs, the more easily I'm
able to recognize items that do belong.  I will also attack the system with
Malwarebyte's Anti-malware, which is really good at removing a lot of things

that other anti-xxx apps can't touch.  The trick with both of these apps is
that you often have to rename them before running them, otherwise, the
infection might recognize and prevent it form running (or push false results

through it).  Since many infections do recognize a lot of AV and AM
utilities, always keep the ones you download encased within a RAR or ZIP
file and only pull it out when needed.  Rename the freshly extracted
installation file and then run it.  During the install, use the Custom or
Manual method so that you can give the main folder a different name, too.
Finally, when the install is done, don't allow it to fire up the program
just yet.  Instead, go into the main folder you just created and rename the
main exe file, too.  Only then should you run it (and most will now be able
to get past the walls put up by the infection).  When renaming, choose
something that has nothing at all to do with regular AV type  names.  When
installing HijackThis, I prefer to use something like abc.exe for both the
extracted installation filename as well as the main .exe filename.  That one

will also be written to C:\Program files\ABC as its main folder during
installation.  When I set up Malwarebyte's, I'll use 123.exe and C:\Program
files\123.

    If it turns out that Malwarebyte's is not quite enough to completely
clean the system (or if it still refuses to run), upload a copy of your
HijackThis log to one of several dedicated malware removal forums and let
one of their experts have a look at it.  These folks train for about a year
before they're allowed to handle anyone without any supervision and they're
VERY good at what they do.  Below is just one such site, but it's the one I
tend to recommend the most.

http://www.techsupportforum.com/security-center/virus-trojan-spyware-help/
OR
http://tinyurl.com/6todlj

    You'll find that they carefully pick the tools they tell you to use
based on exactly what they see within your logs.  After running what they
suggest, you'll need to post a new log so they can see the results.  That
will often lead to the use of another utility to remove more.  You'll go
back and forth with the person until they give you the 'all clear'.  Try to
give yourself plenty of time when you start so you can get through the
procedures in one or two days


    I'll now go and check out the links you provided.

Peace,
Gman

"The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask"

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Chisolm" <d0ct0rdan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:13 AM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Need the Most Efficient & Effective for Viral
Removal


>
> In your opinion where can I find an outline to remove malwares, viruses,
> spywares, etc?
>
> I've tried sypbot, Ad-aware, and Avast.  These have detected and removed
> about 53 inffections.  Currently, I'm running Panda ActiveScan; however,
> it's been running for twelve hours and it's only 35% completed (while
> indicating that it has found 47 infected files).  I'm concerned that
> should I let it continue, there will still be infected files on the system

> at its completion.  I'm interested in starting an approach that offer me a

> reasonable chance for success at the completion.
>
> What do you think about the two YouTube videos found at
> http://snipurl.com/atgj6?
>
> Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
>
> Dan

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