-=PCTechTalk=- Re: NTLDR missing - HELP

Will try this tomorrow......

He has been taking each of his external drives and copying them to another 
external that will hold everything.
He has also taken out his first and second drives.
He put them in external cases...and we got weird results.

The second drive is (I forget now..but for example...say it is 250 GB) 250 
GB and when he put it in an external case... the laptop he is using to 
transfer files...only sees a drive that is something like 33.5 gb.  We have 
unplugged it and plugged it in again.  We plugged it into my pc and got he 
same result.

I went to control panel, admin tools, computer management and device manager 
and also disk management.
Device manager said it was fine and disk management show the same number for 
its size.

We get a similar result with the first drive.  Now if one drive went bad..I 
could buy that..but two of them?  Weird.  And..if it is two of them... 
then.... maybe there is something more seriously wrong with the pc 
itself...motherboard..electric.

I also wonder..if the drive is messed up..how do we even get an error 
message about file missing.  My mind is like a blender..it keeps going round 
and round on this... haha!

This is a Gateway computer.  It is a 2.0 with I think 2 GB of ram.
It either just turned 3 or 4 yrs old.

We will follow your instructions tomorrow.  And we will give you the 
results...thanks bunches...

Rose & Jerry
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "GMan" <gman.pctt@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:26 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: NTLDR missing - HELP


Rose,
    The more I think about this situation, the more I'm thinking about the
original directions you followed.  Try following them again, but when you
get to the part where he's at the prompt, have him type in the stuff
following this paraghaph.  I want to see if the CD drive letter has changed.
I am suspecting this because I doubt he has 9 volumes ahead of the CD drive
(C:, D:, E:, F:, etc.).  You never stated whether this was an OEM or
homebuilt machine, so have him go through these until he receives an output
that includes a folder called i386 (I'm hoping the recovery CD has it in its
root).  When he finds the right letter, stop following them and use that
letter to complete the original instructions.  Note the colon after each
drive letter and press Enter at the end of each line.  FYI, CD tells the
console to Change Directories while DIR requests a directory listing from
the active drive.

CD C:
DIR
CD D:
DIR
CD E:
DIR
CD F:
DIR
CD G:
DIR
CD H:
DIR
CD I:
DIR
CD J:
DIR
CD K:
DIR

    If none of these show a drive with a i386 folder, let me know the last
letter tried that produced anything other than an error message.  And don't
worry about any error messages he gets.  They're harmless at this point.
Just enter an "A" for "abort", or whatever it says to enter for that option.
:O)

Peace,
GMan

"The only dumb questions are the ones that are never asked!"

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tech Rose - LoveBytes" <TechRose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 10:39 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: NTLDR missing - HELP


> GMan...
>
> He is using XP Home and I am running MCE.
>
> We found some info.....  http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000465.htm
>
> The error is NTLDR is Missing
> Press any key to restart.
> which brings you to the same error again.
>
> We went through the steps... and then..when you get to WINDOWS XP USERS
>
>  1.. Insert the Windows XP bootable CD into the computer.
>  2.. When prompted to press any key to boot from the CD, press any key.
>  3.. Once in the Windows XP setup menu press the "R" key to repair
> Windows.
>  4.. Log into your Windows installation by pressing the "1" key and
> pressing enter.
>  5.. You will then be prompted for your administrator password, enter that
> password.
>  6.. Copy the below two files to the root directory of the primary hard
> disk. In the below example we are copying these files from the CD-ROM
> drive
> letter "E". This letter may be different on your computer.
>
>  copy e:\i386\ntldr c:\
>  copy e:\i386\ntdetect.com c:\
> Needless to say.. there is no sense in doing step 7 below.
>
> 7.  Once both of these files have been successfully copied, remove the CD
> from the computer and reboot.
>
> When following step 5 above, when promted for the administrator password,
> we
> press enter as he has no password setup  (we saw then when we went through
> the setup files)  We do not get any kind of error message, and it went to
> the dos prompt, so we figure (I hate saying assume...lol!) that the blank
> password is ok.
> His CD rom drive is his L drive
>
> He then entered copy l:\i386\ntldr c:\
> and he gets an error message saying L:\Windows
> Access is Denied
>
> Thanks for wanting to help..
> Rose



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