I HAD trillian but couldn't use the voice part of yahooo so I dropped it a month or two ago but at that point it was still using AIM...curious ----- Original Message ----- From: TimR~ To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 7:30 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: IM Service I read a story a couple of years ago AOL tried to get Trillian to stop using their messenger I haven't used Trillian for awhile now that most of my contacts now all use the popular MSN Messenger but I think the aim feature still works though you'll have to ask those who still use Trillian... TimR From Geek News - http://tinyurl.com/44y2d Trillian and AOL battle over IM access ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- posted 11:36am EST Thu Jan 31 2002 - submitted by Roman NEWS A battle has been evolving for some time now over the use of Trillian to access the AOL Instant Messaging (AIM) system. On Tuesday, Cerulean Studios released version 0.72 of its popular instant messaging client known as Trillian. Almost immediately users started reporting problems connecting to their AIM accounts. Cerulean stated that by turning off the "SecureIM capabilities" that the problem could be avoided. However, that wasn't the end of it. Even after the alleged "fix" was first posted, AOL again attempted to stop Trillian's use. Cerulean Studios again released another version of this software with fixes in place to allow connection to the AIM system. Version 0.721 of Trillian is now posted as the latest working version of the software. Trillian is an all-in-one instant messaging client. It allows users to connect to various instant messaging services, including AOL, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo! Messenger, and IRC with a single interface. The software is freeware and is funded simply by user donations. Unlike other instant messaging clients, Trillian is "ad-free." Cerulean has already drawn about one million people to the software. AOL is claiming that it feels that the Trillian software falls into the arena of a hack or intrusion into its system. AOL spokeswoman Kathy McKiernan was quoted on CNET as saying "... that when a service unleashes software that hacks into our system, and endangers the security of our system, we stop it." AOL is not showing bias against the software developer, as in the past it has attempted to thwart any third-party software from accessing there system. Read more at CNET, or visit the Trillian site. ROMAN'S OPINION I am a big fan of the Trillian software and I use it to access my AIM account. Fortunately, it appears as if AOL has only been able to block new versions of the software. I never upgraded to version .72 and my current version .70 has never had a problem. [Rob Note: I was using version .71 and was blocked off of AIM--I upgraded to 0.721 and it's working now.] This is the type of software that most end users really like to see. It's functional, skinnable, and able to connect to multiple IM services; best of all, it's free. Cerulean accepts donations through PayPal and Amazon for the work it does. I also like the fact that the software is "ad-free." With the size of the user base that Cerulean has (about 1 million), it could probably make a few bucks by incorporating ads into the client; but it does not. I give the execs credit for that. Being that Cerulean receives its funding from donations, I am sure that this requires it to be more responsive to its users' needs. If the software doesn't work correctly, the company probably won't get the donations it was hoping for. So far Cerulean's done a good job of this, as it has released fixes shortly after AOL attempted to lock out its service. AOL isn't making any friends with this one--it looks like another instance of the giant attempting to squash the little guy. AOL's going to the extreme in the instant messaging war. It looks like it's going to be a long, continuous battle for Trillian if it wants to continue supporting the IM service. To Trillian, I say, "Thanks." -----Original Message----- From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of milady Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 8:51 PM To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: IM Service really? I wonder why? ----- Original Message ----- From: TimR~ To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: IM Service It is Trillian but it no longer allowed to do AIM (AOL) -----Original Message----- From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steve Aiello Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 4:36 PM To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- IM Service Sir Troth a while back you posted a link to an IM that works with all the services. I think it was called trillion but not sure. Would you or some other nice person post it again. I've been going over the old posts but you know how it is, You can never find something when you want. 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