-=PCTechTalk=- Re: Fonts Tutorial

  • From: GMan <gman.pctt@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:29:25 -0400

Sandi,
    Well, TreePrint took 76 fonts and typed them out as well over 100 names. 
All of the ones with numbers in their name are NOT shown inside my Fonts 
folder.  I'm not sure of what happened with that list, but I tried again and 
got the same results.  I will go through my list by hand and report back on 
my findings (hopefully by the end of the weekend).

    I looked through my own Windows (and System32) folder and didn't find 
any 'loose' fonts there.  I can only image they were put there by something 
you installed at some point.  As such, I won't do or say anything to suggest 
that you move them anywhere.  I WILL however, suggest that you Copy them to 
your Xtra folder.

    Yes, you should set up your windows for as easy a transfer process as 
possible.  Moving the Xtra folder to the DT and shrinking the Fonts folder 
sounds very reasonable for achieving this.  The difference between left and 
right dragging is that using the left button will allow Windows to use its 
default action while using the right mouse button puts the control in your 
OWN hands.  If you drag most files from one folder to another located in the 
same drive letter (and not across two different partitions or storage 
drives), Windows will usually Move the file(s).  If you do it across two 
different storage drives, Windows will Copy the files and you'll have two of 
them when it's finished.  In some cases, Windows will automatically create a 
shortcut instead.  If you use the right mouse button instead, you'll get a 
small menu each time asking you whether you want Move, Copy or Create 
Shortcut.  It takes the guesswork out of wondering what Windows will do with 
them.

    Linda's post about placing shortcuts of fonts in the Fonts folder is 
something I've never tried, but it does make a certain amount of sense.  How 
about you test that idea and let us know how well it works.          :O)

    Finally, saving your entire collection of fonts to the Xtra folder 
allows you to use ANY of those fonts with any of those programs, even if you 
decide to get rid of one or more of the programs.

    Let me know if I've missed anything or if my reply introduced some new 
questions to you.

Peace,
GMan

"The only dumb questions are the ones that are never asked!"

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sandi Beach" <sandib2@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 7:18 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Fonts Tutorial


>I found another list of essential fonts at ABC~All 'Bout Computers and the
> original one from Nightsneak has more than the newer list.
> I went to C Windows, fonts, and looked around in there a bit.  And I 
> created
> a new folder and named it Xtra fonts 10-07.  It is currently right under 
> the
> Windows fonts folder.  I have two questions right now.  One--I found a
> number of fonts "on the loose" in the Windows folder and not within the
> fonts folder.  Why would that be?  Should I drag them into the fonts 
> folder?
> My Windows fonts folder contains 717 fonts.  I believe I was told years 
> ago
> to get that down to about 500.
> Second question--Can I drag my Xtra fonts folder to my desk top, reduce 
> the
> size of the opened Window's fonts window and work from there moving from 
> one
> folder to  the other?  And what is the difference in left click and drag 
> as
> opposed to right click and drag?
> I read a post from Linda that we could right click and drag back into the
> Windows fonts folder those we wanted to use and choose from the menu to
> create a shortcut.  They would show up in the Windows Fonts folder but 
> would
> not load on startup.
> Have I made any sense?  Can you figure out what I need to know from all 
> this
> jumbled info?  I don't see a need for saving to an external source as I 
> have
> all the disks to load these back when and if I need to do so.
> They all came with Word, Works, and my card programs.
> Sandi
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "GMan" <gman.pctt@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 8:27 PM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Fonts Tutorial
>
>
>> Sandi,
>>    If you can tell me the name of the font you're after, I more than
>> likely
>> have it among my collection.  As long as it's in the Public Domain
>> (copywrited as free for anyone's use), I'd be more than happy to send it
>> to
>> ya.
>>
>> For anyone interested,
>>    As a font collector and a long-time member of Glenn's font collecting
>> group (shameless plug for one of our own long-time members   lol), I have
>> tens of thousands of the buggers stashed away on my hard drive.  They're
>> in
>> a folder that is not a part of my Windows installation, but I have no
>> problem using any of them whenever I feel the need.
>>
>>    Simply put, Windows loads up all of the fonts in its special Fonts
>> folder everytime you boot up your system.  By loading them, I mean it
>> copies
>> them into RAM to make them available to whatever programs need them. 
>> That
>> also means that the RAM they occupy is now off limits for use by any 
>> other
>> process for the entire duration of your computing session.  You might as
>> well say that this RAM doesn't even exist for the rest of your system
>> since
>> it will never be available as long as all of those fonts are present in
>> the
>> Windows Fonts folder.
>>
>>    In order to use a font that is not part of that collection, just 
>> double
>> click on it to open it and minimize the resulting window.  Opening
>> anything
>> will load it into RAM, so the font will be just as available as the ones
>> in
>> Windows special folder.  When you're done with it, save & close the
>> project
>> you created and then close the font you were using (the minimized one).
>> You
>> can even open up multiple fonts and use them all as part of whatever
>> project
>> you're doing.
>>
>>    The downside is that the font will no longer be available once the
>> minimized window has been closed.  This means opening up that project
>> without first opening up the fonts you used will result in some temporary
>> substitutions being used.  For this reason, I suggest MOVING all but the
>> original fonts from the font folder and storing them in a separate
>> location
>> (preferably on a different partition, drive or external medium).  This
>> will
>> immediately help speed up your system by giving it back that wasted RAM
>> for
>> other tasks.  Then, go through the secondary location and choose which
>> additional fonts you tend to use a lot.  COPY them back into the Windows
>> Fonts folder so they'll always be available (and be able to view your
>> projects the way they were intended to be seen).  Doing it in this order
>> will guarantee you that you have a copy of your most used extra fonts
>> somewhere other than the Windows Fonts folder.  This becomes very
>> important
>> if your instalation of Windows ever goes bad and you're forced to format
>> your C: drive in order to reinstall.
>>
>>    I hope at least some of this helps in dealing with these wonderful, 
>> but
>> resource hogging beasts.          :O)
>>
>> Peace,
>> GMan
>>
>> "The only dumb questions are the ones that are never asked!"
>>
>
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