-=PCTechTalk=- Re: Boot Diskette Question

Guess much has been answered already about this ~ thanks all.

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From: "Ange" <locustchewed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 9:09 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Boot Diskette Question


[Troth]
>One of the many uses of the boot up floppy is if >you're having problems
booting into Windows >you can boot off the floppy and attempt
>to correct the problem or at least see what the >problem is in DOS.

Is there a way of getting into DOS on a Win XP machine to look at it in DOS
in the same way?

I'm just asking as a friend recently brought his PC to me having a constant
rebooting (it was free from virii and very rarely completed booting into
Windows) and in the end we just formatted his hard drive and re-installed
XP.

I guess this is just a "for future reference" question really now but it
would be good to know.

TIA
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----- Original Message -----
From: "~OoO~" <sirtroth@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:23 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Boot Diskette Question


No problem, Cristy.  But,
again, this is the standard boot-up floppy that everyone usually thinks of.

---Troth


-----Original Message-----
From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of cristy
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:59 PM
To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Boot Diskette Question

Thanks Troth,

I was really just trying to understand the different kinds of boot up disks
and reasons for having them.  I cannot recall why I needed the one I had
years ago as I am sure I had the windows 98 CD but did need to use the
floppy at one point.  It was probably due to a crash.  So I guess even after

I used the boot up disk, I probably still had to "load and install" the win
98 cd OS.

Thanks for the explanation.
cristy



----- Original Message -----
From: "~OoO~" <sirtroth@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:03 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Boot Diskette Question


> You're confusing different types of boot-up floppies.
>
> Any type of boot-up floppy allows just as the name suggests, to boot from
> the floppy. Where it goes from there depends on what type of boot-up
> floppy
> you have. You can create rescue disks with some antivirus apps (maybe with
> Norton) that will allow you to boot off the floppy and then restore your
> system in the event of an emergency. That's not a regular boot floppy, but
> rather a specialized one.
>
> When people say 'boot-up' floppy, they usually mean a standard boot-up
> floppy to start the computer in DOS and a command prompt looking like
> this:
> A:\>_
>
> The standard boot-up floppy requires only ONE blank floppy and no app, as
> Windows can create it for you.
>
> But, again, depends what you want to do. You do NOT need a utility to
> create
> a standard boot-up floppy. In Windows XP you create it by formatting a
> floppy and checking off the option to create a bootable floppy. Prior to
> Windows XP, its created almost the same, except there's also an option to
> specifically create a DOS disk.
>
> However, if you want the set that's used to boot up into the Windows XP
> setup (the 6-floppy set) you THEN need a utility to create the floppies.
> It's a small app you run, and it'll ask you to get 6 floppies, label them
> 1
> thru 6, and insert each one when asked. After they're created, you boot-up
> from floppy 1, then it'll ask for 2,3,4,5, and 6. Then after floppy #6
> it'll
> go into the Windows XP setup. The 6-floppy set is only needed if you want
> to
> reinstall Windows and cannot boot from the Windows XP Setup CD. If that's
> not what you are doing, you don't need the 6-floppy set, and hence do not
> need the utility to create it.
>
> Now... you might not be asking for neither of these boot-up floppies. You
> may be asking for something completely different. But, I'm going off of
> what
> I read, and it seemed like you may need one of these. If you tell me what
> exactly you're trying to do, I can tell you which one you probably need.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> ---Troth
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of cristy
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:23 AM
> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Boot Diskette Question
>
> HI Troth,
>
> I dont understand why you need a "utility" to create the disks or what
> exactly it does.  I know years ago I created some kind of boot up disks
> with
>
> a floppy, and I thought it only took "one" floppy for my windows 98 OS.
> It
> seems like it was easy to create the disk but was like 8 years ago.
> However, I cant recall if it was a dos boot up or for the OS but it worked
> and I did have to use it a few times.
>
> Would using a program like "Ghost" do the same thing like making a boot up
> disk for your OS?  I know it copies everything the way it is on your
> computer although I am not sure about the files too.
>
> I may buy a new win xp home disk to install on my system sometime because
> I
> have some issues that are not being resolved with the reinstall disk that
> came with the computer.  That is why I am curious.
>
> Thanks,
> christy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "~OoO~" <sirtroth@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:38 AM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Boot Diskette Question
>
>
>> You have the MS-DOS boot disk, which is used to boot your system off the
>> floppy and get to a black DOS command prompt screen. This is so you can
>> work
>> on your system in DOS (not true DOS under Windows XP).
>>
>> Then there is the Windows XP Setup Boot floppies. This is a 6-floppy set.
>> What happens is this. To install Windows XP, you're supposed to boot off
>> the
>> Windows XP Installation CD. In general, you would go into the BIOS, make
>> sure the boot priority has Windows XP as the first boot device, then pop
>> the
>> Windows XP CD into the drive and restart the system. The system will then
>> boot off the Windows XP Installation CD and begin the setup to
>> format/partition/install. HOWEVER... sometimes, for whatever reason, your
>> system just refuses to boot off the Windows XP Installation CD. Even if
>> you
>> have it set up correctly in the BIOS, the system just does not cooperate.
>> So
>> is the case in probably 50% of all my own reinstalls. Why? I have no
>> idea.
>> It just happens. So... in a case like this, you use the 6-floppy set. You
>> pop in the first floppy and start the computer. It reads floppy1, then
>> asks
>> for #2, then #3, and so on to the 6th floppy. After that, it
>> automatically
>> goes to the CD drive and starts the Windows XP setup.
>>
>> Also... the 6-floppy set is different for both XP Home and XP
>> Professional.
>> You need to use the set for the OS version you plan on installing. On the
>> Microsoft site, you can download the utility to create the 6-floppy set
>> for
>> either OS. If THESE are the boot floppies you need, and you can't find it
>> on
>> the MS site, I have copies of it myself and can get them over to you.
>> Just
>> let me know.
>>
>> ---Troth
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of cristy
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:18 AM
>> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Boot Diskette Question
>>
>> HI Troth,
>>
>> What is the difference between the two please?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> cristy
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "~OoO~" <sirtroth@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:55 AM
>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Boot Diskette Question
>>
>>
>>> What kind of boot disk are you trying to create? A regular boot disk is
>>> created by opening MY COMPUTER, right-clicking on the A drive and doing
>>> FORMAT. Under the FORMAT options, you check off CREATE AN MS-DOS STARUP
>>> DISK. Then click START. Is this the boot disk you are trying to create?
>>>
>>> Or, are you trying to create the 6-set floppies for installing XP Pro,
>>> when
>>> the system doesn't want to boot off the WinXP Setup CD?
>>>
>>> ---Troth
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rocky
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:15 PM
>>> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Boot Diskette Question
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> I am trying to create a Boot Diskette for XP Pro. Microsoft says I need
>>> 3
>>> to
>>>
>>> 5 files on such disk. When searching for Boot.ini I get two choices:
>>> Boot.ini C:\Windows\pss or
>>> Boot.ini C:\Program Files\PowerQuest\Partition Magic
>>> Which is the proper one for the Boot Diskette or what do I search for to
>>> get
>>>
>>> the proper file?
>>> Rocky de Dragon
>>>
>>>
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