-=PCTechTalk=- Re: Boot Diskette Question

No problem, Cristy. One of the many uses of the boot up floppy is if you're
having problems booting into Windows you can boot off the floppy and attempt
to correct the problem or at least see what the problem is in DOS. But,
again, this is the standard boot-up floppy that everyone usually thinks of.

---Troth


-----Original Message-----
From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of cristy
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:59 PM
To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Boot Diskette Question

Thanks Troth,

I was really just trying to understand the different kinds of boot up disks 
and reasons for having them.  I cannot recall why I needed the one I had 
years ago as I am sure I had the windows 98 CD but did need to use the 
floppy at one point.  It was probably due to a crash.  So I guess even after

I used the boot up disk, I probably still had to "load and install" the win 
98 cd OS.

Thanks for the explanation.
cristy



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "~OoO~" <sirtroth@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:03 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Boot Diskette Question


> You're confusing different types of boot-up floppies.
>
> Any type of boot-up floppy allows just as the name suggests, to boot from
> the floppy. Where it goes from there depends on what type of boot-up 
> floppy
> you have. You can create rescue disks with some antivirus apps (maybe with
> Norton) that will allow you to boot off the floppy and then restore your
> system in the event of an emergency. That's not a regular boot floppy, but
> rather a specialized one.
>
> When people say 'boot-up' floppy, they usually mean a standard boot-up
> floppy to start the computer in DOS and a command prompt looking like 
> this:
> A:\>_
>
> The standard boot-up floppy requires only ONE blank floppy and no app, as
> Windows can create it for you.
>
> But, again, depends what you want to do. You do NOT need a utility to 
> create
> a standard boot-up floppy. In Windows XP you create it by formatting a
> floppy and checking off the option to create a bootable floppy. Prior to
> Windows XP, its created almost the same, except there's also an option to
> specifically create a DOS disk.
>
> However, if you want the set that's used to boot up into the Windows XP
> setup (the 6-floppy set) you THEN need a utility to create the floppies.
> It's a small app you run, and it'll ask you to get 6 floppies, label them 
> 1
> thru 6, and insert each one when asked. After they're created, you boot-up
> from floppy 1, then it'll ask for 2,3,4,5, and 6. Then after floppy #6 
> it'll
> go into the Windows XP setup. The 6-floppy set is only needed if you want 
> to
> reinstall Windows and cannot boot from the Windows XP Setup CD. If that's
> not what you are doing, you don't need the 6-floppy set, and hence do not
> need the utility to create it.
>
> Now... you might not be asking for neither of these boot-up floppies. You
> may be asking for something completely different. But, I'm going off of 
> what
> I read, and it seemed like you may need one of these. If you tell me what
> exactly you're trying to do, I can tell you which one you probably need.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> ---Troth
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of cristy
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:23 AM
> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Boot Diskette Question
>
> HI Troth,
>
> I dont understand why you need a "utility" to create the disks or what
> exactly it does.  I know years ago I created some kind of boot up disks 
> with
>
> a floppy, and I thought it only took "one" floppy for my windows 98 OS. 
> It
> seems like it was easy to create the disk but was like 8 years ago.
> However, I cant recall if it was a dos boot up or for the OS but it worked
> and I did have to use it a few times.
>
> Would using a program like "Ghost" do the same thing like making a boot up
> disk for your OS?  I know it copies everything the way it is on your
> computer although I am not sure about the files too.
>
> I may buy a new win xp home disk to install on my system sometime because 
> I
> have some issues that are not being resolved with the reinstall disk that
> came with the computer.  That is why I am curious.
>
> Thanks,
> christy
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "~OoO~" <sirtroth@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:38 AM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Boot Diskette Question
>
>
>> You have the MS-DOS boot disk, which is used to boot your system off the
>> floppy and get to a black DOS command prompt screen. This is so you can
>> work
>> on your system in DOS (not true DOS under Windows XP).
>>
>> Then there is the Windows XP Setup Boot floppies. This is a 6-floppy set.
>> What happens is this. To install Windows XP, you're supposed to boot off
>> the
>> Windows XP Installation CD. In general, you would go into the BIOS, make
>> sure the boot priority has Windows XP as the first boot device, then pop
>> the
>> Windows XP CD into the drive and restart the system. The system will then
>> boot off the Windows XP Installation CD and begin the setup to
>> format/partition/install. HOWEVER... sometimes, for whatever reason, your
>> system just refuses to boot off the Windows XP Installation CD. Even if
>> you
>> have it set up correctly in the BIOS, the system just does not cooperate.
>> So
>> is the case in probably 50% of all my own reinstalls. Why? I have no 
>> idea.
>> It just happens. So... in a case like this, you use the 6-floppy set. You
>> pop in the first floppy and start the computer. It reads floppy1, then
>> asks
>> for #2, then #3, and so on to the 6th floppy. After that, it 
>> automatically
>> goes to the CD drive and starts the Windows XP setup.
>>
>> Also... the 6-floppy set is different for both XP Home and XP
>> Professional.
>> You need to use the set for the OS version you plan on installing. On the
>> Microsoft site, you can download the utility to create the 6-floppy set
>> for
>> either OS. If THESE are the boot floppies you need, and you can't find it
>> on
>> the MS site, I have copies of it myself and can get them over to you. 
>> Just
>> let me know.
>>
>> ---Troth
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of cristy
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:18 AM
>> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Boot Diskette Question
>>
>> HI Troth,
>>
>> What is the difference between the two please?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> cristy
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "~OoO~" <sirtroth@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:55 AM
>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Boot Diskette Question
>>
>>
>>> What kind of boot disk are you trying to create? A regular boot disk is
>>> created by opening MY COMPUTER, right-clicking on the A drive and doing
>>> FORMAT. Under the FORMAT options, you check off CREATE AN MS-DOS STARUP
>>> DISK. Then click START. Is this the boot disk you are trying to create?
>>>
>>> Or, are you trying to create the 6-set floppies for installing XP Pro,
>>> when
>>> the system doesn't want to boot off the WinXP Setup CD?
>>>
>>> ---Troth
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rocky
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:15 PM
>>> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Boot Diskette Question
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> I am trying to create a Boot Diskette for XP Pro. Microsoft says I need 
>>> 3
>>> to
>>>
>>> 5 files on such disk. When searching for Boot.ini I get two choices:
>>> Boot.ini C:\Windows\pss or
>>> Boot.ini C:\Program Files\PowerQuest\Partition Magic
>>> Which is the proper one for the Boot Diskette or what do I search for to
>>> get
>>>
>>> the proper file?
>>> Rocky de Dragon
>>>
>>>
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