-=PCTechTalk=- Not Receiving mail --AOL

I changed the thread subject as this is a bit off the mainstream topic I am
responding to.

Ok folks, if you do not like rants, do not read this.  These words are my
own personal opinion.
In my humble opinion AOL is worse than Bill Gates has ever been accused of
being.

They not only have products that do not work properly and want to make money
from its customers by 'renting' them to their advertisers, but, they do
their best to make you think they are helping you.

AOL is looked upon as a great ISP for newbies.  They take newbies by the
hand and say," We know you are new in this big world of the internet.  Do
not be afraid, we will help and protect you from the evil outside our ISP."
(They do not even say they will protect you from the evil INSIDE AOL)

They make things very easy for the newbie.  And soon the newbie feels very
comfortable.  They do not have so many decisions to make and do not have to
learn a lot of new things.  They are being spoon fed by AOL.  Once spoon
fed, it is difficult to go out on your own and be a 'pioneer' and explore
the rest of the internet world.

AOL says who can send them spam and who cannot.  They can allow all the
popups and advertising of those that pay them for their captive audience.
You see.. AOL can deliver market share with limited competition for its big
paying customers, the advertisers/spammers.

Just think if the only grocery store you knew about only sold XYZ Beer.  You
would never know there was ABC beer or any other brand.  Or, even if you
knew there were other brands, you would probably only buy XYZ beer because
it was familiar to you.  The recommendation came from a trusted 'friend' who
promised to protect you.  XYZ will pay for that privilege.  They KNOW you
will only see their advertisement.  They have a captive audience.  There is
no real competition.

When AOL started blocking 'content' from it's users in the name of security,
I was deeply concerned.  It did not give you a choice.  You had no voice.
You just did not get the content.  It would be like getting the morning
paper and  your "friend' came and cut out the articles they felt might not
be good for you.  They want to 'protect' you.  They would give you the
content "they" determined was ok for you to see.   You pay for the paper,
you get the information THEY want you or will ALLOW you to have.

What is more insidious is they way they give their customers a 'feeling' of
security..that security blanket that makes their customers think they are
treasured and they cannot leave and go out into the cruel cyberworld as they
will be hurt.  They have not learned, from AOL, how to surf the net, get the
mail and content they want or any of the technical things all
computer/internet users need to know.

I have seen some of the worst spam and vulgar XXXX rated emails in AOL.  I
am so sick and tired of the internet having to create separate links for
everything for AOL users.  (It is not because of the users, but because AOL
refuses to adopt the standards the rest of the world has adopted.)

For Instance, all the major ISP's tried to get AOL to standardize chat a
number of years ago.  MSN, Prodigy and other ISP's were writing and asking
AOL to join in a standard that would allow a single chat client to work for
all users and to support the standard.  All the ISP's EXCEPT AOL were in
agreement.  When AOL got a lot of heat, allot from their own customers, they
agreed to come to the meeting with the other ISP's and to bring input to the
chat client.  They agreed to participate.

They did not agree to work with anyone.  Just to show up and make their
demands.  Their demands were to use their chat client and force everyone
else to and they controlled the product.  In other words, they would make
everyone reliant on AOL for chat.  another niche market for them.

There is a reason they bought Netscape and also a reason for the Time-Warner
dumping of AOL.  AOL is arrogant and will go down in flames as a victim in
its own corporate mind.  The real victims are the customers who are paying a
high price for services they either do not need, want or use.  So many
clients use to little of their services.

It is easy to sign up mom and dad to AOL as they just send a few pieces of
email.  That is a lot of money for email folks.

As always, I qualify my comments with, this is my personal opinion.. and I
have no money to be made by saying any ISP is good or bad.  There may be a
niche for AOL, but I think AOL needs to join the rest of the world and allow
its customers to be first class citizens!

I know..I know.. tell me what  you really think Rose...haha!
I do not want anyone to think that I disrespect AOL customers or think they
are stupid.  I just think they are being taken advantage of.

Rose
Las Vegas
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cris" <cris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 7:52 AM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: not receiving all my email


why would Bill gates do this when he has his IE and OE, and AOL is its own
thing
and doesn't support OE ? or am I not understanding this - are you saying AOL
is
becoming like Bill Gates?
Just trying to figure out what you mean - and why AOL would block everyone
else
who didn't use AOL - I think that would act in the reverse, and AOL
customers
would leave AOL - NO? people who don't use AOL wouldn't start to use it just
to
communicate with their AOL friends - sounds illogical to me.....

Cris
----- Original Message ----- 
From: milady
To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:10 AM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: not receiving all my email


or else LEAVE AOL??? Even if that is TRUE? no one says anyone HAS to stary
there..

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Fithian" <Rockyfit@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 4:44 AM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: not receiving all my email


Do you have an idea that AOL will eventually block all ISPs so that
if you want to use e-mail you will have to use AOL.  Looks like
another Bill Gates thing to me.
Rocky

On 29 Jan 2004 at 21:19, Poppy0206@xxxxxxx wrote:

> The site this is happening for is Rootsweb.
> For some reason, AOL has decided that rootsweb mail is spam and they
> will not put it through to their customers.  Rootsweb has been in
> touch with AOL about this issue but they're not sure if AOL will
> listen or do anything about removing this block from your list mail.
>
> There is a number of bounces allowed before the robot at rootsweb
> removes an address.  I've set the limit on the NFLD-ROOTS to 12
> returned messages but at the rate we're going it won't be long before
> your address is removed by the robot due to the bounces.  :-(  I can't
> resubscribe you once the robot removes your address because another
> returned message will trigger the robot to remove your address once
> again.
>
> It might be a good idea for you to contact tech support and explain
> that you had to subscribe to receive mail from the NFLD-ROOTS mailing
> list and that it's not spam and that you'd like to receive it once
> again.
>
>
>
> cristy

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