The last two times NOD was in a yellow/orangish color with an error so I open NOD and it said my system wasn't updated. Sure enough I check Windows Update and there are critical files waiting..I have XP set to notify me when new updates but not download, now I do not get the Updates notices..running version 4.0.314.0...my guess when going from version 3X to 4X in NOD 32 caused this as I have received update notice's in the past...? This has happened twice.. Does Microsoft Security Essentials need to be running in the system tray or can it run effective in the background like Spybot? TIA Rudy --------------------------------------------------------------- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. To subscribe, unsubscribe or modify your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk OR To subscribe to the mailing list, send an email to pctechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject. To unsubscribe send email to pctechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject. To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ To contact only the PCTT Mod Squad, write to: pctechtalk-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To join our separate PCTableTalk off-topic group, send a blank email to: pctabletalk+subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------