-=PCTechTalk=- Fw: TT-SB memory twigs?
- From: "hank smith" <hanksmith4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:43:51 -0800
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----=_NextPart_002_1551_01C72CE1.B52C1FA0"
------=_NextPart_002_1551_01C72CE1.B52C1FA0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
this is a interesting article
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Danny Hollis=20
To: talking-tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:08 AM
Subject: TT-SB memory twigs?
=20
=20
-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------
December 31, 2006
The Goods
And Now, Memory on a Twig=20
By BRENDAN I. KOERNER
WHILE entertaining viewers with tales of galactic voyaging and hostile =
aliens, the "Star Trek" franchise also preached the virtues of =
interracial (and interspecies) harmony, endearing it to millions. But =
according to Guido Ooms, a Dutch product designer, "Star Trek' also =
warped the minds of consumers and product designers by portraying =
electronic gadgets as uniformly sleek and unadorned.
"The computer stuff that is coming out right now, it is all plastic and =
symmetrical and aerodynamic in shape, like 'Star Trek' stuff," said Mr. =
Ooms, founder of the design studio Oooms in Eindhoven, the Netherlands. =
"I think there's no reason for that, really, other than that it looks =
like it works properly."
A year ago, Mr. Ooms and his girlfriend, the designer Karin van =
Lieshout, started brainstorming on ways to demonstrate that high-quality =
computer products needn't look antiseptic. A result of their =
collaboration is a U.S.B. memory stick that takes its product =
description literally; it is a data storage drive encased in a real, =
handpicked piece of wood.
The memory stick began, like all of Mr. Ooms's creations, as a series of =
rough sketches. In February, he posted the drawings to Core77.com, an =
online magazine for industrial designers. The feedback was so =
enthusiastic that Mr. Ooms and Ms. van Lieshout decided to make some =
prototypes, a process that started in a forest outside Eindhoven.
"We went into the woods with big shopping bags and found dead trees that =
were lying on the floor," Mr. Ooms said. Not just any branch would do; =
they focused on sticks with unusually knobby protrusions, or with gnaw =
marks from rodents.
"Little animals, they make really nice carvings sometimes," said Mr. =
Ooms, noting that one squirrel left a pattern resembling a Chinese =
dragon.
Back at the studio, Mr. Ooms and Ms. van Lieshout drilled holes through =
the center of each piece of wood, sanded and polished the exterior, then =
inserted a U.S.B. drive they had bought off the shelf from a local =
electronics shop. The drives were secured inside the wood with dabs of =
putty.
After the memory sticks went on sale last spring, customers began =
complaining that the putty wasn't resilient enough; the drives kept =
breaking free from their organic casings. So Mr. Ooms and Ms. van =
Lieshout added another step to the construction process, lining each =
stick's interior with a veneer of glue.
They also reduced the product's maximum size, in response to criticism =
from Apple PowerBook users. Because the newest PowerBooks are so thin, =
Mr. Ooms said, larger sticks forced the laptops to rise at odd angles. =
In their forest expeditions, then, Mr. Ooms and Ms. van Lieshout must be =
careful to gather twigs with diameters of less than two inches.=20
Mr. Ooms says he has been surprised by the popularity of the memory =
sticks, which are available at Oooms.nl. He estimates that he has sold =
3,000, at prices ranging from about $59 for a 256-megabyte version to =
nearly $92 for the top-of-the-line, one-gigabyte model.
The key to the product's success, Mr. Ooms says, is the way it makes =
passers-by do a double take when they see the quintessential =
information-age accessory, a laptop, paired with the quintessential =
Stone Age utensil, a wooden stick.
Sales have been so brisk that Mr. Ooms is considering hiring some =
outside production help. Under a program in the Netherlands, he said, =
prisoners can be hired to perform basic manufacturing tasks - in this =
case, that would involve drilling the holes and sanding the twigs.
But there are limits to how much of the work can be outsourced to =
inmates: unless they can find a Dutch prison with a sizable forest on =
its grounds, Mr. Ooms and Ms. van Lieshout will continue handling the =
procurement of raw materials.=20
Home=20
a.. World=20
b.. U.S.=20
c.. N.Y. / Region=20
d.. Business=20
e.. Technology=20
f.. Science=20
g.. Health=20
h.. Sports=20
i.. Opinion=20
j.. Arts=20
k.. Style=20
l.. Travel=20
m.. Jobs=20
n.. Real Estate=20
o.. Automobiles=20
p.. Back to Top=20
Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company=20
a.. Privacy Policy=20
b.. Search=20
c.. Corrections=20
d.. RSS=20
e.. First Book=20
f.. Help=20
g.. Contact Us=20
h.. Work for Us=20
i.. Site Map=20
=20
--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google =
Groups "Talking-Tech" group.=20
To post to this group, send email to talking-tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to =
talking-tech-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
For more options, visit this group at =
http://groups.google.com/group/talking-tech?hl=3Den=20
-~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
------=_NextPart_002_1551_01C72CE1.B52C1FA0
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3020" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>this is a interesting =
article</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Doldan@xxxxxxxxxx href=3D"mailto:oldan@xxxxxxxxxx";>Danny =
Hollis</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dtalking-tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
href=3D"mailto:talking-tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>talking-tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx=
om</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:08 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> TT-SB memory twigs?</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A =
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/";><IMG=20
alt=3D"The New York Times" hspace=3D0=20
src=3D"http://graphics10.nytimes.com/images/misc/logoprinter.gif"; =
align=3Dleft=20
border=3D0></A> <!-- ADXINFO classification=3D"button" =
campaign=3D"foxsearch2006-emailtools14a-nyt5"-->
<TABLE style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 3px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3px" cellSpacing=3D0 =
cellPadding=3D0=20
width=3D"80%" border=3D0>
<TBODY>
<TR vAlign=3Dbottom>
<TD>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 2px">
<DIV align=3Dright><IMG height=3D1 alt=3D""=20
src=3D"http://graphics10.nytimes.com/ads/spacer.gif"; width=3D1 =
border=3D0><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/adx/bin/adx_click.html?type=3Dgoto&pag=
e=3Dwww.nytimes.com/printer-friendly&pos=3DPosition1&camp=3Dfoxse=
arch2006-emailtools14a-nyt5&ad=3Dhistoryboys_88x31_pic11323.gif&g=
oto=3Dhttp://www.foxsearchlight.com/thehistoryboys/"=20
target=3D_blank><IMG height=3D24 alt=3D"Printer Friendly Format =
Sponsored By"=20
src=3D"http://graphics10.nytimes.com/ads/fox/printerfriendly.gif"; =
width=3D106=20
border=3D0><IMG height=3D31 alt=3D""=20
=
src=3D"http://graphics10.nytimes.com/ads/fox/sponsorship/historyboys_88x3=
1_pic11323.gif"=20
width=3D88 =
border=3D0></A><BR></DIV></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR =
clear=3Dall>
<HR align=3Dleft SIZE=3D1>
<DIV class=3Dtimestamp>December 31, 2006</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dkicker><NYT_KICKER>The Goods</NYT_KICKER></DIV>
<H1><NYT_HEADLINE type=3D" " version=3D"1.0">And Now, Memory on a Twig=20
</NYT_HEADLINE></H1><NYT_BYLINE type=3D" " version=3D"1.0">
<DIV class=3Dbyline>By BRENDAN I. KOERNER</DIV></NYT_BYLINE><NYT_TEXT>
<DIV id=3DarticleBody>
<P>WHILE entertaining viewers with tales of galactic voyaging and =
hostile=20
aliens, the =93Star Trek=94 franchise also preached the virtues of =
interracial (and=20
interspecies) harmony, endearing it to millions. But according to Guido =
Ooms, a=20
Dutch product designer, =93Star Trek=92 also warped the minds of =
consumers and=20
product designers by portraying electronic gadgets as uniformly sleek =
and=20
unadorned.</P>
<P>=93The computer stuff that is coming out right now, it is all plastic =
and=20
symmetrical and aerodynamic in shape, like =91Star Trek=92 stuff,=94 =
said Mr. Ooms,=20
founder of the design studio Oooms in Eindhoven, the Netherlands. =93I =
think=20
there=92s no reason for that, really, other than that it looks like it =
works=20
properly.=94</P>
<P>A year ago, Mr. Ooms and his girlfriend, the designer Karin van =
Lieshout,=20
started brainstorming on ways to demonstrate that high-quality computer =
products=20
needn=92t look antiseptic. A result of their collaboration is a U.S.B. =
memory=20
stick that takes its product description literally; it is a data storage =
drive=20
encased in a real, handpicked piece of wood.</P>
<P>The memory stick began, like all of Mr. Ooms=92s creations, as a =
series of=20
rough sketches. In February, he posted the drawings to <A=20
href=3D"http://core77.com/"; target=3D_><FONT =
color=3D#000066>Core77.com</FONT></A>, an=20
online magazine for industrial designers. The feedback was so =
enthusiastic that=20
Mr. Ooms and Ms. van Lieshout decided to make some prototypes, a process =
that=20
started in a forest outside Eindhoven.</P>
<P>=93We went into the woods with big shopping bags and found dead trees =
that were=20
lying on the floor,=94 Mr. Ooms said. Not just any branch would do; they =
focused=20
on sticks with unusually knobby protrusions, or with gnaw marks from=20
rodents.</P>
<P>=93Little animals, they make really nice carvings sometimes,=94 said =
Mr. Ooms,=20
noting that one squirrel left a pattern resembling a Chinese dragon.</P>
<P>Back at the studio, Mr. Ooms and Ms. van Lieshout drilled holes =
through the=20
center of each piece of wood, sanded and polished the exterior, then =
inserted a=20
U.S.B. drive they had bought off the shelf from a local electronics =
shop. The=20
drives were secured inside the wood with dabs of putty.</P>
<P>After the memory sticks went on sale last spring, customers began =
complaining=20
that the putty wasn=92t resilient enough; the drives kept breaking free =
from their=20
organic casings. So Mr. Ooms and Ms. van Lieshout added another step to =
the=20
construction process, lining each stick=92s interior with a veneer of =
glue.</P>
<P>They also reduced the product=92s maximum size, in response to =
criticism from=20
<A title=3DApple=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/mem/MWredirect.html?MW=3Dhttp://custom.mar=
ketwatch.com/custom/nyt-com/html-companyprofile.asp&symb=3DAAPL"><FON=
T=20
color=3D#000066>Apple</FONT></A> PowerBook users. Because the newest =
PowerBooks=20
are so thin, Mr. Ooms said, larger sticks forced the laptops to rise at =
odd=20
angles. In their forest expeditions, then, Mr. Ooms and Ms. van Lieshout =
must be=20
careful to gather twigs with diameters of less than two inches. </P>
<P>Mr. Ooms says he has been surprised by the popularity of the memory =
sticks,=20
which are available at Oooms.nl. He estimates that he has sold 3,000, at =
prices=20
ranging from about $59 for a 256-megabyte version to nearly $92 for the=20
top-of-the-line, one-gigabyte model.</P>
<P>The key to the product=92s success, Mr. Ooms says, is the way it =
makes=20
passers-by do a double take when they see the quintessential =
information-age=20
accessory, a laptop, paired with the quintessential Stone Age utensil, a =
wooden=20
stick.</P>
<P>Sales have been so brisk that Mr. Ooms is considering hiring some =
outside=20
production help. Under a program in the Netherlands, he said, prisoners =
can be=20
hired to perform basic manufacturing tasks =97 in this case, that would =
involve=20
drilling the holes and sanding the twigs.</P>
<P>But there are limits to how much of the work can be outsourced to =
inmates:=20
unless they can find a Dutch prison with a sizable forest on its =
grounds, Mr.=20
Ooms and Ms. van Lieshout will continue handling the procurement of raw=20
materials. =
</P><NYT_UPDATE_BOTTOM></NYT_UPDATE_BOTTOM></DIV></NYT_TEXT><BR>
<CENTER><NYT_COPYRIGHT>
<DIV id=3Dfooter style=3D"WIDTH: auto">
<DIV class=3DfooterRow><A href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Home</FONT></A>=20
<UL>
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/pages/world/index.html";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>World</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/pages/national/index.html";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>U.S.</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/pages/nyregion/index.html";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>N.Y. / Region</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/pages/business/index.html";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Business</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/pages/technology/index.html";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Technology</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/pages/science/index.html";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Science</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/pages/health/index.html";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Health</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/index.html";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Sports</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/pages/opinion/index.html";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Opinion</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/pages/arts/index.html";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Arts</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/pages/style/index.html";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Style</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://travel.nytimes.com/pages/travel/index.html";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Travel</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/pages/jobs/index.html";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Jobs</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/pages/realestate/index.html";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Real Estate</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/pages/automobiles/index.html";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Automobiles</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none"><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/31/business/yourmoney/31goods.html=
?ref=3Dtechnology&pagewanted=3Dprint#top"><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Back to Top</FONT></A> </LI></UL></DIV><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/ref/membercenter/help/copyright.html";><FON=
T=20
color=3D#000066>Copyright 2006</FONT></A> <A =
href=3D"http://www.nytco.com/";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>The New York Times Company</FONT></A>=20
<UL>
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/privacy";><FONT color=3D#000066>Privacy=20
Policy</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://query.nytimes.com/search/advanced/";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Search</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/corrections.html";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Corrections</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A class=3DrssButton=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/rss";><STRONG><FONT=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ff6600" face=3DVerdana=20
color=3D#ffffff>RSS</FONT></STRONG></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://firstlook.nytimes.com/";><FONT color=3D#000066>First =
Book</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/membercenter/sitehelp.html";><FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Help</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
=
href=3D"http://nytimes.com/ref/membercenter/help/infoservdirectory.html";>=
<FONT=20
color=3D#000066>Contact Us</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: #000 1px solid"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.nytco.com/career.html";><FONT color=3D#000066>Work =
for=20
Us</FONT></A>=20
<LI style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none"><A=20
href=3D"http://spiderbites.nytimes.com/";><FONT color=3D#000066>Site =
Map</FONT></A>=20
</LI></UL></DIV></NYT_COPYRIGHT></CENTER><!-- SiteCatalyst code =
version: G.5.
Copyright 1997-2003 Omniture, Inc. More info available at
http://www.omniture.com -->
<SCRIPT language=3DJavaScript><!--
var s_account=3D"nytimesglobal"
var s_pageName=3D"/2006/12/31/business/yourmoney/31goods.html"
var s_server=3D""
var s_channel=3D"business"
var s_pageType=3D""
var s_prop1=3D"article"
var s_prop2=3D"your money"
var s_prop3=3D""
var s_prop4=3D""
var s_prop5=3D"1154659520149"
var s_prop6=3D""
var s_prop7=3D""
var s_prop8=3D""
var s_prop9=3D""
var s_prop10=3D""
var s_prop12=3D""
var s_prop13=3D""
var s_prop14=3D""
var s_prop15=3D""
var s_prop16=3D""
var s_prop17=3D""
var s_prop18=3D""
var s_prop19=3D""
var s_prop20=3D"167539"
var s_campaign=3D""
var s_state=3D""
var s_zip=3D""
var s_events=3D""
var s_products=3D""
var s_purchaseID=3D""
var s_eVar1=3D""
var s_eVar2=3D""
var s_eVar3=3D""
var s_eVar4=3D""
var s_eVar5=3D""
var s_eVar6=3D""
var s_eVar7=3D""
var s_eVar8=3D""
var s_eVar9=3D""
var s_eVar10=3D""
//--></SCRIPT>
<SCRIPT language=3DJavaScript=20
src=3D"http://graphics10.nytimes.com/js/s_code_combined.js";></SCRIPT>
<SCRIPT language=3DJavaScript><!--
s_code=3Ds_dc(s_account);if(s_code)s_d.write(s_code)
//--></SCRIPT>
<IMG height=3D1 alt=3D""=20
src=3D"http://std.o.nytimes.com/b/ss/nytimesglobaluns/1/G.9p1/s9451214143=
4693?[AQB]&ndh=3D1&t=3D31/11/2006%2010%3A5%3A29%200%20360&cdp=
=3D3&pageName=3D/2006/12/31/business/yourmoney/31goods.html&g=3Dh=
ttp%3A//www.nytimes.com/2006/12/31/business/yourmoney/31goods.html%3Fref%=
3Dtechnology%26pagewanted%3Dprint&r=3Dhttp%3A//www.nytimes.com/2006/1=
2/31/business/yourmoney/31goods.html%3Fref%3Dtechnology&ch=3Dbusiness=
&events=3Devent5&cc=3DUSD&c1=3Darticle&c2=3Dyour%20money&=
amp;c3=3Dregistered&v4=3D/2006/12/31/business/yourmoney/31goods.html&=
amp;c5=3D1154659520149&v6=3Darticle&c8=3Dhttp%3A//www.nytimes.com=
/2006/12/31/business/yourmoney/31goods.html&v8=3Dbusiness&c13=3DA=
nd%20Now%2C%20Memory%20on%20a%20Twig%20-%20New%20York%20Times&c20=3D1=
67539&pid=3D/2006/12/31/business/yourmoney/31goods.html&pidt=3D1&=
amp;oid=3Dhttp%3A//www.nytimes.com/2006/12/31/business/yourmoney/31goods.=
html%3Fref%3Dtechnology%26pagewanted%3Dprint&ot=3DA&oi=3D214&=
s=3D1024x768&c=3D32&j=3D1.3&v=3DY&k=3DY&bw=3D1024&=
;bh=3D591&ct=3Dmodem&hp=3DN&[AQE]" width=3D1 border=3D0=20
name=3Ds_i_nytimesglobaluns> <!-- End SiteCatalyst code version: G.5. =
--><!-- Start UPT call --><IMG height=3D1=20
src=3D"http://up.nytimes.com/?d=3D0/4/11&t=3D2&s=3D1&ui=3D167=
539&r=3Dhttp%3a%2f%2fwww%2enytimes%2ecom%2f2006%2f12%2f31%2fbusiness%=
2fyourmoney%2f31goods%2ehtml%3fref%3dtechnology&u=3Dwww%2enytimes%2ec=
om%2f2006%2f12%2f31%2fbusiness%2fyourmoney%2f31goods%2ehtml%3fref%3dtechn=
ology%26pagewanted%3dprint"=20
width=3D3 border=3D0> <!-- End UPT call -->
<SCRIPT type=3Dtext/javascript>
var regstatus=3D"registered";
var dcsvid=3D"167539";
var gDomain=3D"wt.o.nytimes.com";
var gDcsId=3D"dcs94nlu900000kr6jvydpa7y_2q9p";
var gTrackEvents=3D0;
var gFpc=3D"WT_FPC";
/*<![CDATA[*/
=
if(document.cookie.indexOf(gFpc+"=3D")=3D=3D-1){document.write("<scr"+"ip=
t type=3D'text/javascript' =
src=3D'"+"http"+(window.location.protocol.indexOf('https:')=3D=3D0?'s':''=
)+"://"+gDomain+"/"+gDcsId+"/wtid.js"+"'><\/scr"+"ipt>");}
/*]]>*/
</SCRIPT>
<SCRIPT src=3D"http://graphics10.nytimes.com/js/analytics/wt.js"=20
type=3Dtext/javascript></SCRIPT>
<NOSCRIPT><IMG id=3DDCSIMG height=3D1 alt=3DDCSIMG=20
src=3D"http://wt.o.nytimes.com/dcs94nlu900000kr6jvydpa7y_2q9p/njs.gif?dcs=
uri=3D/nojavascript&WT.js=3DNo"=20
width=3D1> </NOSCRIPT><IMG height=3D1=20
src=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/adx/bin/clientside/28195e69Q2FwC)Q23lDE10Q2=
BlQ3E0RaQ2FDR0Dea1eQ23"=20
width=3D3>=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~<BR=
> You=20
received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups=20
"Talking-Tech" group. <BR>To post to this group, send email to=20
talking-tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>To unsubscribe from this group, send =
email to=20
talking-tech-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>For more options, visit =
this group=20
at http://groups.google.com/group/talking-tech?hl=3Den=20
<BR>-~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---<BR><BR></BODY><=
/HTML>
------=_NextPart_002_1551_01C72CE1.B52C1FA0--
--
<Please delete this line and everything below.>
To unsub or change your email settings:
http://www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk
To access our Archives:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/
http://www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/
Other related posts:
- » -=PCTechTalk=- Fw: TT-SB memory twigs?
![http://graphics10.nytimes.com/images/misc/logoprinter.gif"](http://graphics10.nytimes.com/images/misc/logoprinter.gif"){kind=link}
![http://graphics10.nytimes.com/ads/spacer.gif"](http://graphics10.nytimes.com/ads/spacer.gif"){kind=link}
![http://graphics10.nytimes.com/ads/fox/printerfriendly.gif"](http://graphics10.nytimes.com/ads/fox/printerfriendly.gif"){kind=link}
