Check out this very surprising and dramatic graph! http://winnow.oitc.com/AntiVirusPerformance.html It's based on testing carried out by the reputable Malware Incident Reporting & Termination (MIRT) team at CastleCops and shows that AntiVir is by far the best antivirus, especially in dealing with new threats. The methodology of the tests is explained on http://winnow.oitc.com/avcentral.html and praised on http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2007/02/recognizing-paul-and-robin-laudanski.html PS I intend to find out why an antispam and antiphishing company that is in addition a partner of CastleCops has such dubious and shoddy "congratulations you won" popups on its website and whether there is any guarantee that personal info added to the junk sites that OITC links to like www.freelotto.com/register.asp?skin=FlashWinner2&partner=1051177 will not result in spam and identity theft. An even bigger problem is that security experts and security companies should be teaching users NOT to fall for scams and NOT to click on flashing get-rich-quick schemes etc. -- -------list-services-below----------- Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at http://www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at http://www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Latest news live feeds at http://modecideas.com/indexhomenews.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.