[pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- From: "Ekhart GEORGI (last name last)" <Ekhart.GEORGI@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pchelpers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:50:43 +0200
Hi Scott
> GDW> Well you could have knocked me over with a feather. I knew that
> GDW> some viruses could affect Linux through e-mail, on many in the
> GDW> list it does not state how it is transmitted, thus the mode could
> GDW> still be e-mail, although it stands to reason that since packages
> GDW> are opensource that someone may insert a virus into the code.
> GDW> However it is still apparent that Linux is still the safer
> GDW> choice.
>
> My honest opinion is that this is only because of lack of market
> share.
Even if this were true, it would seem to be a good reason to switch. If
and only if Linux got such a large share of the market that it'd become
a more interesting target for malware writers and if and only if their
malware was effective, that would still mean many years of peace and
quiet for people who switched to Linux now. In addition, it seems that
none of the viruses written for Linux have ever propagated successfully!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_computer_viruses
The situation seems to be the same as with Firefox. There are obviously
unknown security flaws in FF that theoretically can be exploited by
malware writers, but this will probably never happen because the code is
corrected too quickly. In addition, there are many less unknown
programming flaws of any kind in FF than in IE because anyone can
critically study the source code.
As far as i know, Linux is programmed very carefully line by line, even
more carefully than FF, and freely checked by thousands of critical eyes
whereas Windows code is an unbelievable mess. As far as i know, Windows
code consists to a large part of hastily added new features quick
combinations of different projects and has huge amounts of ugly hacks to
make these work together with the rest and contains huge amounts of
bloat. The sheer size of Windows is enough to prove that it is very
badly written code. BTW, this argument also indirectly proves that Opera
is still better than Firefox although Firefox is getting smaller.
Most importantly, i have read very convincing articles claiming that
Windows is full of huge amounts of security flaws i.e. holes due to
sloppy programming whereas the few holes found in Linux are always
quickly patched. Many if not most of the Windows security holes are not
known to Microsoft and many if not most of those known are not patched
until they are discovered by hackers or crackers and most of them are
not fixed until they are exploited by crackers. Worse still, some of
them are not even fixed then for long periods of time.
I don't know whether the hackers and crackers find the Windows security
holes because they have illegal copies of Windows's source code or
because they use reverse engineering, but it's clear that it's a very
bad idea to prevent most programmers from analysing Windows code. Most
people are honest, and almost all become honest if there's social
control. Now, the proportion of malevolent to normal programmers
studying Windows is much higher than it would ever be for Linux even if
it had as large a market share as Windows and even if it were as
sloppily programmed.
> Most of the antivirus vendors offer a Linux product.
Most vendors of anything are willing to sell even useless versions of
their products as long as people buy it. As far as i know, most Linux
owners have never encountered as virus and simply laugh at the idea of
installing antivirus software. Perhaps the only Linux operators that get
AV are IT experts at companies who want to make sure they don't lose
their job due to claims of negligence. It's well known that companies
buy a lot of completely unnecessary junk, especially in the security
sector, instead of applying simple common sense. For example, good old
old-fashioned uniformed guards are much more effective than intrusion
prevention systems, and often even cheaper than the fancier ones, but
all new fads are easy to sell.
> After some scrounging, I found this page:
> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=2
Apparently those figures are off by about an order of magnitude for
Linux, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Windows_and_Linux#Desktop
See also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Windows_and_Linux#Security
--
-------list-services-below-----------
Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig>
Freelists login at http://www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi
List archives at http://www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers
PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig
Latest news live feeds at http://modecideas.com/indexhomenews.htm?sig
Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.
- Follow-Ups:
- [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- From: Scott McNay
- References:
- [pchelpers] Watchtower On Linux
- From: Gregory D. Watts
- [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- From: Dr.Bieberstein
- [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- From: Gregory D. Watts
- [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- From: Pen Pal
- [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- From: Gregory D. Watts
- [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- From: Scott McNay
- [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- From: Gregory D. Watts
- [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- From: Scott McNay
Other related posts:
- » [pchelpers] Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- » [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- From: Scott McNay
- [pchelpers] Watchtower On Linux
- From: Gregory D. Watts
- [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- From: Dr.Bieberstein
- [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- From: Gregory D. Watts
- [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- From: Pen Pal
- [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- From: Gregory D. Watts
- [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- From: Scott McNay
- [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- From: Gregory D. Watts
- [pchelpers] Re: Watchtower On Linux
- From: Scott McNay