Re Na thanks seems to be its old ( or new ) fast self. You one smart lady. Pen Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at http://www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at http://www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://pchelpers.5er.com?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.