A tip for you if you don't already know is one I've used for years. I really hate that racket modems make when they connect with the net. (Maybe I'm just a creaky old man:~ ) In case you don't like it either: In Windows 98 & Windows ME you click Start, Settings, Control Panel. Double-click Modems. In the Modems Properties box click the General tab and click Properties. Under Speaker Volume, move the slider to Off. You can also turn off the modem noise in Windows XP. Click Start, Control Panel. Double-click Phone and Modem Options. Select the Modems tab and click Properties. Select the Modem tab. Under Speaker Volume move the slider to Off. Best, Ed --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/03 Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at http://www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at http://www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.