Hi Pam I don't remember the problem, because I am always fine tuning and having problems, The Problem is at that particular time whatever it is, it is a problem, I just work through it until I get it. Oh! Ya, I thing it was the fact that I wasn't using tables, No! that wasn't it, Ya! I remember it was a resizing problem, the web page would look different other browsers, Ya!, I remember now. I run a high resolution, so when I build a web page it dose not look so good to someone with 800 x 600. I brought software from frontlook.com and it did help, but the old timers at the church said they wanted the old web page back. So win some lose some but I always win in their end. Steve Clark Moreno Valley, California http://www.secondbaptistriverside.org/ Did you know? Amateurs built the Ark. Professionals built the Titanic.