Hi Barbara, That's a good way to get some good experience. Making old things work with new and old parts and software, one can learn a lot fast. The newer stuff does a lot automatic for you, but the older stuff, one has to figure out how to do it, but once you do, ones chances of fixing any computer are better. I've always wondered about this nerd thing. No one has ever called me a nerd, or insane, well, maybe. :O) But when I compare me talking to people all over the world on any subject, with someone watching addictive soaps on the boob tube, who is insane? :O) Also knowing how to fix computers can be very helpful in the world. For instance, I had an Agent Orange physical recently at the Vets Hospital. No big deal, I was just in an Agent Orange area, Vietnam. My next appointment with this doctor would have been in Oct, his first opening, however, since I diagnosed his computer while he was questioning me, I got an appointment in a week. Almost everyone I talked to in the hospital wanted to take me home. It seems almost everyone's computer is just about in the same boat these days. Most have been using them for a few years now and they are just too full of junk. They all need cleaned out, but they don't know what to do. It's usually easier to format and start fresh, but most don't want to lose anything, even the stuff they have forgotten about. :O) I fix far more computers for free, than I charge for. For this I get a lot of free dinners and I've made a lot of new friends. :O) Bob Noble www.sonic.net/bnoble ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Schonfeld" <bschonfeld@xxxxxxxxx> To: <pcductape@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 2:30 AM Subject: [pcductape] Re: compaq deskpro en Bob My favorite computer is the ones i come across in the trash or at garage sales, when people say they're junk and not worth a red cent. I bought an older compaq , monitor ,dual cdroms, ect..for $5.00 and that was well worth 5.00 . I enjoy figuring what went haywire on it and just general snooping on the harddrive.. Not to mention, being able to replace my nephews cdrom for nothing. Several years ago, I put together a old computer for my sons daycare with shareware programs and menu in dos for kids. It was realy cool. It gave early exposure for children and they felt quite in control doing it all by them selves. I've wanted to get into business doing computer work, but things just haven't panned out yet.. I have gotten several friends and family into computers, and of course I am the techinical support person. I have people that call and require help and I try my best to help.So int he meantime, i just recycle computers and have a stack of them around. I have gotten rid of all my 8088s and 386's. Since I have become disabled, I am limited on what i can do these days. I did however buy myself this compaq presario 6000 with xp on it. I like it, its powerful,etc, but I miss taking that cover off and fiddling with parts and trying things out on it. I haven t installed much as far as shareware and things, for since i didnt get a xp cd , im scared to do much to it. But I still have a few old computers around the house to play with. and I never pass up a free computer..and my friends and family get ones for me too. But by far the best thing I ever did, was to get my husband hooked. THat makes my hobby alot more tolerable. I got him an compaq 6000 also, but he still has his old computer that he uses for his data base. And around here...when somebodys computer goes down, mine,hubby or the kids, its top priority to fix. Atleast others with the love of computers understand that, but then there are others that think we are insane. Barb -------Original Message------- From: pcductape@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 12:51:55 PM To: pcductape@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pcductape] Re: compaq deskpro en By the way, I think I made a mistake and said I like Compaq computers. I don't, but they aren't that bad. :O) I like Dell the best right now. But if a person is on a tight budget, an Emachine will work quite well also. Bob Noble www.sonic.net/bnoble . To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pcductape-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface.