The GURUYeah, I use GURU a lot. It's really good for basic characters. I made my pirate with GURU, and my new Cape and Mask. Mike Chambers www.cyberchambers.org -----Original Message----- From: oxfordgamers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oxfordgamers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bolenbaugh, Tom Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:32 AM To: newgamers (E-mail) Subject: [oxfordgamers] The GURU I was playing with the GURPS GURU more in detail last night and as I get more familiar with it I like it even more. While not as pretty or simple as Character Sheet, it's much more robust. If you are going to make a more complex character, the GURU is the better tool. They even kindly included templates for all the Black Ops classes, for which I am eternally grateful. GURU handles Supers very well. It can even do gadgets by allowing you to plug in limitations to your powers. You fill in the description field for each power connected to the gadget, plug in the appropriate limitation percentages and it does the rest. By grouping them using the sort field you can put multiple powers from the same gadget together for quick reference. I did find a bug in the calculations. If you add more than one limitation to a power it calculates the cost correctly, but as soon as you save the sheet it reverts the cost to only the first limitation. There is an easy work-around, you plug in the limits and get the correct cost, then plug that cost into the "custom cost" field and it overrides any calculations for that ability. Then you can save it just fine. If you want to do a super, a psionic, a cyborg, a voodoo priest or something as complex as a black ops agent, you want to use the GURU. If you want a more basic character, including a normal mage, (and you have a Mac) the Character Sheet program is great. One more thing about the GURU, the descriptions of the skills and whatnot are page references to the appropriate book, so if you want details about a skill or power you will need to look it up. However you can also plug in the info by editing the description of the skill, so if you have a lot of time on your hand you could transcribe all the descriptions into the GURU. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).