[ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information

How do you set up the hotkey? I would be interested to give it a go.

Chris Norman
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Guy" <Tonyandfriends@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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I'm sorry! I miss understood. Never had the pleasure of either one working
in safe mode before.

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[mailto:ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:18 AM
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Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information

Let me clarify that the point I intended was not about hot key activation,
but running in safe mode. I also set up a hot key for JAWS.
I especially needed a hot key in safe mode because the auto-loading screen
reader feature did not work and I could not navigate to launch the program
without speech. I should also be clear that Window-Eyes did more limited
screen reading than in regular mode, though it was useful in restoring after
a system crash sometimes.

Jamal

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[mailto:ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tony Guy
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:10 AM
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Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information


Yes JAWS could be activated with a shortcut key or hot key in win9x.
The
different between win-eyes and JAWS, is that win-eyes has the key built in.
JAWS does not so you had to make it yourself.

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[mailto:ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tink Watson
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:58 AM
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Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information

Jamal,

   That's really interesting. I wonder if WE still supports that? Any WE
users on the list?

Tink.
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Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 2:17 PM
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I have not tried with Windows 2000 or XP, but I recall that Window-Eyes
could be activated with a desktop shortcut hot key in safe mode under
Windows 9X, whereas JAWS could not.

Jamal

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[mailto:ossrp-control-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tink Watson
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:35 AM
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Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information


Naama,

   This isn't really my field, but I suspect it would be difficult to
achieve this. Safe mode works by prohibiting drivers from loading, whether
sound drivers, technology or application specific drivers. Without these I
imagine it would be tricky, even impossible to get a screen reader loaded
and running.

   It certainly would be nice though, the inability to access the bios,

safe mode and other precursor environments is one of the biggest irritations
of using a screen reader.

Tink.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Naama Erez" <diva2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:20 AM
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Just wondering, and that can be because my knowledge about this is
limited, is there any type of screen reader, or any possibility for a
screen reader to operate in safe mode?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 8:18 PM
Subject: [ossrp-control] Re: screen reading information


Hi Juan,

As far as I know, Beth Mynat's and Keith Edward's paper is the only
one 
on
how screen readers work.  There's been various ones written on screen


reader
design, such as a comparison paper written by Beth Mynat et al in
1994, 
which you can download from the publications section of the Everyday
Computing Lab's website, which is part of the main GA Tech site.
There's
also been work done by Alistair Edwards at the University of York, in
the
UK, Steve Brewster from the University of Glasgow, in the UK, various 

people
at the University of Toronto, in Canada, but these have mainly
focused on
design rather than implementation. I did hear that Prof. Gary Bishop
at 
the
University of North Carolina was developing a new type of screen
reader,
based more around communication with the user, and any information on 

this
will likely be on the UNC web site at:
http://cs.unc.edu/research/assist

Will
----- Original Message ----- From: "Juan Hernandez" <juanh@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:17 AM
Subject: [ossrp-control] screen reading information


Hello everyone,
First I am glad to say that a project of this kind has finally
started.
I've discussed this type of project with other people, and have
written
papers and such for my course work at the univercity, on the
research 
and
development of a free or extremely low cost screen reading solution.

I have quite a bit of coding background, but none in the screen
reading
area.

I have downloaded the paper written by: Mynatt, E.D., and Edwards,
W.K.
(1992). " Mapping guis to auditory Interfaces, but I would like to
know 
if
anyone has any other information on screen reading development,
consepts,
theory, etc?

Again, I am glad OSAT has started, and I hope to help as much as I
can
in
the future. Thanks 

Juan Hernandez
San Diego, California









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